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How does having consumer level devices deployed to a school help educate people at all, regardless of things like platform fragmentation?
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I did that. That's the one reason why I bought a Nexus S. It's March, about 4 or so months after Android 4.0 launched. I still have 2.3 on my Nexus S, because of delays for my region and carrier.
On the bright side, you are a hacker. It is damn easy to get 4.0 on any Nexus S device.
this is why android will not succeed in the corporate space. might not be their target anyhow, but who knows. IT departments in big companies love stable, homogenous platforms. buy an iphone anywhere on this world, it is exactly the same. same OS, same apps, etc. the upgrade path is known, predictable and again, completely global. hence the success of the iPhone in that space, killing off RIM. hence the success of iP…
Your comment is kind of funny because I remember when people bitched about the iPhone not being suitable for the enterprise. What people are missing is that when a product gets really popular amongst consumers, the enterprise will follow regardless of its shortcomings. Plus, Android does have advantages for the enterprise. Like its integration with the other Google services. For instance I love that my whole contacts…
Do you have any other examples of this? I hadn't really heard this before the iPhone or iPad.
I think by the end of the year this will be less of a problem. Consider that last year two OS versions were released and the first was Honeycomb which had a very binding legal agreement associated with it so as not to appear on phone form factor devices. Then Icecream Sandwich comes out and as usual most of the Android ecosystem does not see any of the codeline until the AOSP release. So now it's 3 months down the ro…
Eclair took about 9 months to peak, Froyo about a year, Gingerbread still looks like it hasn't peaked about 15 months since release.
To fix fragmentation, you want everybody on the same page. If they are releasing new features each major version, then I suppose this means you want them on the same major version.
At this rate, you will not see progress until maybe Q2 2013 when everybody is releasing ICS phones.
Edit: spelling
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The article links another article which shows, graphically, how long a number of popular Android phones were getting updates - including security patches. According to it, Android users are lucky to be getting updates after a mere 10 months. Including security patches. And that's assuming you buy the phone immediately after it hits the market.
Not sure which article you mean. You're saying you're aware of an unpatched vulnerability on an android handset?
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Calling everyone one who buys a samsung device "unsuspecting public" is patronising. There are real reasons to buy a non apple device. I have listed some such reasons on an earlier thread - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3642152 . I also managed to miss one important reason in that list - 4G.
He's not calling everyone who buys a samsung device "unsuspecting public". He's specifically referring to those who wouldn't mind buying a 2.2 phone when 2.3 and 4.0 are out.
Mind you, I knew what I was buying and it would be rooted and flashed to 2.3 within about half hour of purchase :)
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Judging from the amount of people on old iPhones and iPads complaining about how every new version of iOS slows things down or is just plain not supported on their older model, that quote sounds rather... imaginative.
So, strangely, for app testing purposes, I actually own one of each model of iPhone and iPad ever made by Apple. The performance, as you said, certainly does vary. However, from my experience, there's been only one really bad moment: the iPhone 3G on iOS 4. I'd put the next worst as the original iPad on iOS 4.3 (it's better on iOS 5, actually), but even that was nowhere near as bad and still completely usable. Howeve…
For example, I have a very cheap Android phone. It's not the best, but it does a good job. But lately I've noticed that some of the apps are running much slower now after some recent updates - Maps, Twitter, Angry Birds and esp Facebook.
All these need to work in harmony to get the best overall experience, but at the same time work well for the lowest common denominator (me in this case!)
this is why android will not succeed in the corporate space. might not be their target anyhow, but who knows. IT departments in big companies love stable, homogenous platforms. buy an iphone anywhere on this world, it is exactly the same. same OS, same apps, etc. the upgrade path is known, predictable and again, completely global. hence the success of the iPhone in that space, killing off RIM. hence the success of iP…
Your comment is kind of funny because I remember when people bitched about the iPhone not being suitable for the enterprise. What people are missing is that when a product gets really popular amongst consumers, the enterprise will follow regardless of its shortcomings. Plus, Android does have advantages for the enterprise. Like its integration with the other Google services. For instance I love that my whole contacts…
Depending on which Galaxy S you're on, look into CM9. Despite its early stages, it's amazingly stable. I've been on ICS without any problems for awhile now.
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Already been done. The Nexus line of phones have the latest software directly from Google, and no carrier bloat. Really, anyone technical enough to read HN should go with a Galaxy Nexus or Nexus S vs. ANY other Android phone.
Does this apply to their small phones? Perhaps it is because of reading HN that I am of the perception that only the larger more feature-full phones are maintained well (or perhaps just that my friends who have bought these just got the big version, having large male rucksacks). The Nexus that I am aware of doesn't fit in my purse.
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> Circa 2002 they had '95, 98, ME, and XP spread across over half a billion units. With further varied patch configurations and service packs. It's worth pointing out that this comparison isn't the same. You could, in 2002, run the latest version of Office on all of their operating systems. With Android, there are situations where even Google's own software (see Chrome on Android) only runs on the absolute latest ver…
And Microsoft was pushing updates and security patches to all those XP machines. Still are, over 10 years after initial release. Whereas Android users are lucky if they're still getting updates and security patches after 10 months.
For the same reason, Android fragmentation is a non-issue.