Here’s a really fun review of the Jelly 2 that someone showed me a few months ago. https://maxread.substack.com/p/the-worlds-stupidest-smallest...
Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
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Re: Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
#52The phone doesn’t fit into a pocket as well as an iPhone SE since it’s thicker which overall is a much better phone. It’s also not as small as a smartwatch that can also replace a phone and the smartwatch is even more restrictive than this is if you’re “digital detoxing”
I don’t see the appeal outside the price and that small android’s are hard to come by.
Re: Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
#53I'm still using my Palm Phone, as I find it better looking and I think the form factor is nicer than the Unihertz phones. I am able to type pretty easily with Microsoft's swipe text keyboard. But as it was not particularly fast in 2018, it's only a matter of time until software becomes too slow to use on the phone. Even opening the text messaging app has a visual lag nowadays. The battery life is also not great; I do…
In terms of battery life, you could probably give it a renew by having the battery replaced with a new one. Other than that you could likely keep using it. There’s no reason for old devices to become slower except: - The internal databases (such as the messages database) growing larger than the devs intended - Not enough free storage space to comfortably allow swap files - 3rd party background processes taking over B…
Nah the manufacturer isn't pushing anything, this phone hasn't been updated by the manufacturer in many years. It's the apps that are slowing down. I have replaced the Palm Phone with newer Palm Phones after breaking a couple, the battery life isn't any better.
For me, the tradeoff is still worth it for now because it has the best form factor. But at some point within the next decade, it will become impossible.
Re: Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
#54The Jelly Star is interesting too, another 3" phone with Android 13 and better specs than the 2e: https://www.unihertz.com/products/jelly-star
The Jelly 2 is also quite a bit faster. The 2e is slow enough that I wouldn’t expect it to be a great experience for most people.
I don't game on phones, so I don't got any problems with my 2E. Only thing unusable is the camera, that only is useful for notes
Re: Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
#55The phone doesn’t fit into a pocket as well as an iPhone SE since it’s thicker which overall is a much better phone. It’s also not as small as a smartwatch that can also replace a phone and the smartwatch is even more restrictive than this is if you’re “digital detoxing” I don’t see the appeal outside the price and that small android’s are hard to come by.
I often got the problem that I have to find the 2E in my pockets.
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#56You know, I like it. But using an on-screen keyboard on that would be exhausting. Also many apps are built with at least 5” screen real estate in mind - so with the keyboard up, I wonder if it would be annoying to type a response/comment. I know I struggled with an OG iPhone SE, and that experience is the source of my concern here. I imagine the target audience probably won’t write lengthy emails on this thing. Eithe…
To be honest, I'm just somehow incompatible with touchscreen text input regardless of the screen size. It works 90% of the time, sure, but the remaining 10% I want to yeet the damn thing at a wall for repeatedly failing to read my mind. This is especially exacerbated when I'm typing in Russian — which I do much more than in English — where each word can have one of something like 30 different suffixes depending on th…
have you tried 8pen/8vim, it looks like it makes more sense than qwerty for the small screen, though, it has a bit of a learning curve. Also, I know that for japanese, you have those 12 key keyboards, where holding down while dragging up, down, left, or right, means different characters. I think that could work for other languages as well.
Re: Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be honest, I'm just somehow incompatible with touchscreen text input regardless of the screen size. It works 90% of the time, sure, but the remaining 10% I want to yeet the damn thing at a wall for repeatedly failing to read my mind. This is especially exacerbated when I'm typing in Russian — which I do much more than in English — where each word can have one of something like 30 different suffixes depending on th…
have you tried 8pen/8vim, it looks like it makes more sense than qwerty for the small screen, though, it has a bit of a learning curve. Also, I know that for japanese, you have those 12 key keyboards, where holding down while dragging up, down, left, or right, means different characters. I think that could work for other languages as well.
> I think that could work for other languages as well.
That was exactly what I built for Russian and English, see my linked thread. It ended up not working as well as I imagined. Maybe I should be smarter with the layout instead of making it alphabetical.
> 8pen/8vim
Neither of them support Russian :(
8vim does have a Ukrainian layout file but while similar, there are some letters that Russian has but Ukrainian lacks (ы э ъ ё). Though I suppose I can make a pull request.
edit: I installed and tried 8vim. While a nice idea and I can see myself using it, this whole layers thing does kinda ruin it and you do need layers for a Cyrillic alphabet if you also want to have punctuation. 8vim also lacks the ability to quickly switch languages.
Re: Unihertz Jelly 2E – smartphone with 3“ screen
#58You know, I like it. But using an on-screen keyboard on that would be exhausting. Also many apps are built with at least 5” screen real estate in mind - so with the keyboard up, I wonder if it would be annoying to type a response/comment. I know I struggled with an OG iPhone SE, and that experience is the source of my concern here. I imagine the target audience probably won’t write lengthy emails on this thing. Eithe…
I've used Android phones since the very first one, which had a 3.2" screen. With a swipe keyboard it's fine, I really enjoyed it.
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#59I don't understand how the smartphone market is so enormous but the variety is so small. Why do I have to carry around a phone over twice as tall as it is wide when the space my thumb can reach is roughly circular? If I'm holding my phone balanced in my hand I can neither reach the navigation area at the bottom nor the notification area at the top. If I get a phone small enough to reach the whole screen it's so narro…
16:8 is too much but 16:9 is what you want?
To be honest I'd prefer 16:10 but 16:9 is a more realistic dream.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
In terms of battery life, you could probably give it a renew by having the battery replaced with a new one. Other than that you could likely keep using it. There’s no reason for old devices to become slower except: - The internal databases (such as the messages database) growing larger than the devs intended - Not enough free storage space to comfortably allow swap files - 3rd party background processes taking over B…
Nah the manufacturer isn't pushing anything, this phone hasn't been updated by the manufacturer in many years. It's the apps that are slowing down. I have replaced the Palm Phone with newer Palm Phones after breaking a couple, the battery life isn't any better. For me, the tradeoff is still worth it for now because it has the best form factor. But at some point within the next decade, it will become impossible.
> Nah the manufacturer isn't pushing anything, this phone hasn't been updated by the manufacturer in many years.
That’s what I was thinking, and my instinct says you could just keep using it for another decade.
> It’s the apps that are slowing down.
That doesn’t make sense to me unless it’s one of the reasons I mentioned above: their internal DB getting too large (solution: wipe data), or the app company pushing updates.
But I can tell you know what you’re doing so I’m not going to try to convince you you’re wrong.