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Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#31

Post by flangola7 »

Hemospectrum wrote: post #19
LeoPanthera wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if you pay the new fees, no app is allowed to show "NSFW" content, which is now unavailable in the API. I'm tired of tech companies being run by puritans.

It's the credit card companies. Showing users nudity for free is fine. Making them pay for it means you're selling porn and the payment processors ban you. Reddit wants to make users pay for viewing content. They can't get away with that if the content is NSFW.

Why do processors care? Why does it matter if the domain is pornhub.com or reddit.com?

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by charcircuit »

grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

>What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#33

Post by kumarvvr »

Reddit has allowed the third-party app system go too far and now they are struggling to contain it.

I remember when Twitter did the same thing, but they realized it early and did it when there were not too many apps that users were used to.

I feel Reddit will come out fine from this. A minor hiccup. Mods will be replaced, apps will be forgotten and users will talk about this whole thing in some AskReddit thread.

The sad fact of the matter is there are no viable alternatives to Reddit for the average redditor.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by Terretta »

> simply because they want to cut costs on their infrastructure to protect their bottom line.

This line doesn't make sense, since it doesn't "cut costs" to make a user use a particular user-agent instead of their preferred browser, nor does it "protect their bottom line".

There's a potential argument that using custom clients that block ads costs Reddit ad revenue, but it wouldn't if using custom clients had been made a perk of, say, Reddit Premium which is already ad-free.

There's an argument that somehow Reddit is "losing out" on third party client subscription revenue, but that's like saying web sites should share revenue from a commercial web browser, or ISPs should share revenue from subscription web sites. Hard to argue for either if one believes in net neutrality.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#35

Post by charcircuit »

flangola7 wrote: post #31
Hemospectrum wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the credit card companies. Showing users nudity for free is fine. Making them pay for it means you're selling porn and the payment processors ban you. Reddit wants to make users pay for viewing content. They can't get away with that if the content is NSFW.

Why do processors care? Why does it matter if the domain is pornhub.com or reddit.com?

Most notably higher chargeback rates

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#36

Post by Shekelphile »

grishka wrote: post #30

Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps? I can understand the iOS apps, the App Store hegemony does kinda force this and there were cases of Apple removing apps that interact with an online servi…

> Seeing all Reddit apps shut down, I can't help but wonder — what is it that made everyone play by the rules? What happened to the adversarial interoperability spirit? What forces people to use their own API keys instead of pretending to be one of the official apps?

The official reddit app uses a seperate, undocumented graphql based api rather than the public REST one they allow for public use. I suspect someone is/will be already using it to emulate the 'old' API soon enough.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#37

Post by zzleeper »

kumarvvr wrote: post #33

Reddit has allowed the third-party app system go too far and now they are struggling to contain it. I remember when Twitter did the same thing, but they realized it early and did it when there were not too many apps that users were used to. I feel Reddit will come out fine from this. A minor hiccup. Mods will be replaced, apps will be forgotten and users will talk about this whole thing in some AskReddit thread. The…

Are you sure? I've used Reddit for 15 years and it's the first time I don't really have a good way of using it, besides the desktop (on old.reddit).

On mobile (where I used to spend reddit most time) their own app is so crap I don't even have it installed, so I have no easy way to browse. On Chrome I'm not even logged-in, so I only use it whenever a google search leads me there, but I don't post or do anything meaningful.

All in all, it feels like a really stupid move. If you are going to kill the apps, then have a decent alternative. Otherwise, just charge them a profitable but not stupid amount. And if reddit is losing money, maybe just look at their headcount and start there...

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

#38

Post by Borgz »

topato wrote: post #24
iamtedd wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the name most frequently used in the linked article is tedd.it - not even capitalised. What's your point?

The point was that the title was and is fine as is

I disagree. The current title "Teddit Is Shutting Down" implies that the Teddit project or the official Teddit instance at teddit.net are shutting down, neither of which are currently happening.

Re: Teddit Is Shutting Down

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Post by chongli »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #15

> Lemmy is the New Reddit I hope so, but we need a winning instance first. When you search for Lemmy right now you're sent to a page that begins with "Join a Server... Run a Server". That kind of first experience will never replace Reddit. Lemmy.world seemed to be winning the SEO battles in my Google search. Is that a good one? Edit: Sorry for changing my entire post; I had incomplete information about Lemmy at the t…

a winning instance

That would defeat the purpose. Lemmy is a fediverse application. The whole point is decentralization. A winning instance would concentrate power in the hands of one admin. We don’t want that!

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