The number of birds I recall hanging out on telephone lines as a kid was amazing... 40+ years later and I find it's now a rare sight. I think of the decline often.
A third of North America’s birds have vanished
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#23The estimate is about 200 species go extinct every day from the actions of human beings -- ecosystem destruction, degredation, climate change etc. We are a meatgrinder to the biosphere.
the biosphere is a meat grinder. nature is scary
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pollution is a problem for everyone. We need government regulations and every single person changing their lifestyle but guess what, it won't happen. We had peak awareness in the 80s and 90s, I remember in school time was dedicated to ecology and the environment. Now half the US is actively working against environmentalism. You're blaming the media for not talking about species going extint but about flooding. If peo…
> If people don't change even with the threat of human life being lost then there's no way they care if multiple species of birds goes extinct. people won't change. they are addicted to convenience, low prices, diversity in options, and unlimited availability. which is also great for corporate profits. as a species, humans plan and invest very little beyond our own lifetimes. but we're just animals after all. all the…
Bullshit. That's cultural. Look at nordic countries. Norway has a seed vault and has 80% of new cars are electric. Renewables in Europe are still moving at great speed
https://www.energymonitor.ai/tech/renewables/europe-renewabl...
You just won't say the real people who are to blame. You want to lay the blame on all people equally
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#25They're all in my yard... Seriously, the number of birds I've seen in my yard and neighborhood is way higher than in years past. I don't know what the explanation is. Maybe the local population has had a boom, or other food sources have disappeared and they have chosen my corner of suburbia. My first assumption was that they were rebounding after a few years of avian flu.
Same, I've literally had a half dozen juvenile sparrows sitting on my bedroom windowsills for the past several days chirping up a storm while their parents fly back and forth feeding them bugs. Plus countless robins, sparrows, sandpipers, and starlings all over the neighborhood.
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#26climate change is always framed in terms of how many coastal people it will affect when sea levels rise a few meters. the canadian wildfires going on now. the only thing i hear about it in the media is how bad the air quality will be in this or that city, or how many oil/gas/logging jobs will be lost. the amount wildlife that is being displaced or burned alive? fuck it! did you hear that 10k humans had to be evacuate…
The article mentions habitat destruction and agriculture as the driving issue, not climate change.
> The hardest hit were grassland birds, down by more than 50 percent, mostly due to the expansion of farms that turn a varied landscape into acres of neat, plowed rows.
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#27climate change is always framed in terms of how many coastal people it will affect when sea levels rise a few meters. the canadian wildfires going on now. the only thing i hear about it in the media is how bad the air quality will be in this or that city, or how many oil/gas/logging jobs will be lost. the amount wildlife that is being displaced or burned alive? fuck it! did you hear that 10k humans had to be evacuate…
Who are we kidding...It'll recover within a century or so without humans. Millions of years for birds to re-evolve, but general recovery happens pretty quickly!!
We're getting bombarded with messages from the fossil fuel industry like "recycle," "ban nuclear," "ban straws," "ban plastic bags" that distract from the industry's real impact. If we want to solve the problem, we have to focus on the core issue: burning fossil fuels.
We're at a potentially species-ending crossroads - and we're moving towards saving ourselves. But it'll take actual focus on the problem to solve it instead of looking for perfect solutions to everything.
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#28They're all in my yard... Seriously, the number of birds I've seen in my yard and neighborhood is way higher than in years past. I don't know what the explanation is. Maybe the local population has had a boom, or other food sources have disappeared and they have chosen my corner of suburbia. My first assumption was that they were rebounding after a few years of avian flu.
Not sure where you are, but I'm in central NJ and just last week I mentioned to a friend that I felt there were more birds than usual. Obviously, anecdotal, but it was a mild winter here. That said, I also feel like there are less squirrels. But they had peaked during Covid due to - I believe - less road kill.
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#29climate change is always framed in terms of how many coastal people it will affect when sea levels rise a few meters. the canadian wildfires going on now. the only thing i hear about it in the media is how bad the air quality will be in this or that city, or how many oil/gas/logging jobs will be lost. the amount wildlife that is being displaced or burned alive? fuck it! did you hear that 10k humans had to be evacuate…
Forget where I saw this, but we won't "save the planet", it will save itself by getting rid of us.
Tool made a song about it back in 1996:
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#30They're all in my yard... Seriously, the number of birds I've seen in my yard and neighborhood is way higher than in years past. I don't know what the explanation is. Maybe the local population has had a boom, or other food sources have disappeared and they have chosen my corner of suburbia. My first assumption was that they were rebounding after a few years of avian flu.
Some species of birds that do well in suburban habitats are doing well. House sparrows, house finches both have populations that have grown. The building of the suburb caused a loss of whatever habitat was there, and the species that live in those undisturbed habitats aren't the same species that live in suburban yards. Some more adaptable birds are doing well now, but those that are more sensitive in their ecological needs rather than generalists are seeing continuing population losses.