A third of North America’s birds have vanished
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#13We are a meatgrinder to the biosphere.
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#14The second link I provide hs some harrowing statistics: eg - Tree sparrow -95 per cent. That was from 1970 to 1999. I recall recently (Countryfile - BBC programme that covers agri, countryside and enviro. issues) that Turtle Doves are now (2023) 90% down. They were ~70% down in 1999. I remember seeing and hearing turtle doves on farmland back in the day (late 70s - early 90s). One of my grandads retired to a small holding in S Devon with a mere 30 acres to worry about.
https://committees.parliament.uk/work/7381/insect-decline-an....
https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/how-you-ca...
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#15They're all in my yard... Seriously, the number of birds I've seen in my yard and neighborhood is way higher than in years past. I don't know what the explanation is. Maybe the local population has had a boom, or other food sources have disappeared and they have chosen my corner of suburbia. My first assumption was that they were rebounding after a few years of avian flu.
That said, I also feel like there are less squirrels. But they had peaked during Covid due to - I believe - less road kill.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Forget where I saw this, but we won't "save the planet", it will save itself by getting rid of us.
George Carlin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c&themeRefresh=1 i will say that saving (preserving) the planet for your children is still a form of "saving" it. english's lack of nuance here is unfortunate, but also makes for some hilarious puns :D
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#18climate change is always framed in terms of how many coastal people it will affect when sea levels rise a few meters. the canadian wildfires going on now. the only thing i hear about it in the media is how bad the air quality will be in this or that city, or how many oil/gas/logging jobs will be lost. the amount wildlife that is being displaced or burned alive? fuck it! did you hear that 10k humans had to be evacuate…
You're blaming the media for not talking about species going extint but about flooding. If people don't change even with the threat of human life being lost then there's no way they care if multiple species of birds goes extinct.
We've created a culture where being selfish is acceptable. Where polluting by modifying your vehicle is cool. Where caring about the environment makes you part of a conspiracy and who do you blame? The media for not talking about it more.
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#19The estimate is about 200 species go extinct every day from the actions of human beings -- ecosystem destruction, degredation, climate change etc. We are a meatgrinder to the biosphere.
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#20climate change is always framed in terms of how many coastal people it will affect when sea levels rise a few meters. the canadian wildfires going on now. the only thing i hear about it in the media is how bad the air quality will be in this or that city, or how many oil/gas/logging jobs will be lost. the amount wildlife that is being displaced or burned alive? fuck it! did you hear that 10k humans had to be evacuate…
Pollution is a problem for everyone. We need government regulations and every single person changing their lifestyle but guess what, it won't happen. We had peak awareness in the 80s and 90s, I remember in school time was dedicated to ecology and the environment. Now half the US is actively working against environmentalism. You're blaming the media for not talking about species going extint but about flooding. If peo…
people won't change. they are addicted to convenience, low prices, diversity in options, and unlimited availability. which is also great for corporate profits.
as a species, humans plan and invest very little beyond our own lifetimes. but we're just animals after all. all the talk about becoming an interplanetary (mars) species for our own survival has to be the most absurd statement that can be made to dismiss the very real problems we should solve here first. but billionaires need an excuse to play Tony Stark.
it's not cool or profitable to do the boring work of unfucking ourselves.