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What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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> You don’t need a license to operate these aircraft because they’re easy enough to fly that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) doesn’t see the need to regulate them.

I don't think that's the reason. The reason is that they are unlikely to hurt anyone besides the pilot in a crash.

They can have an engine failure, stall-spin, or fly into a cloud just as readily as any other plane. Those are the biggest risks for GA, and they're no easier to handle in an ultralight.

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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That covers what you can fly. There are also restrictions on when and where you can fly. These are daytime VFR [1] conditions only, only in uncontrolled airspace, cannot fly over cites or towns or large groups of people, cannot create hazards to other people or property, must yield right of way to other aircraft, and must comply with all FAA NOTAMs [2]. [1] Visual Flight Rules. VFR conditions are conditions where you…

> only in uncontrolled airspace, cannot fly over cites or towns or large groups of people

Yeah I wouldn’t want some yahoo playing around with that in my neighborhood.

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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this is amazing, I had no idea you could just skip the license if u use a tiny plane.

You can also get a pilot's license at 14 years old in many parts of the US. That said, do so with caution. Flying is still dangerous and accidents will often be fatal, license or no. Note the provisions about "no passengers allowed". One reason these planes don't require licenses is that the risk of collateral damage is low enough to be comparable to a car. You can hurt yourself quite badly while not endangering othe…

> You can also get a pilot's license at 14 years old in many parts of the US.

FAA is federal in scope, so the rules are the same across the US.

You can get a student pilot certificate (allowing you to solo an aircraft) at 16 for airplanes/helicopters and 14 for gliders and balloons. 17 is the minimum age for a private pilot certificate and I believe 16 is the minimum age for a glider/balloon pilot.

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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Police in the US do not have to have a license to operate anything, including aircraft. In this case, insurance requirements take over though. They may have a legal right to fly but no insurance company would approve operation by anyone but a commercial pilot. I got a few hours in a local police Bell 206 because they needed a commercial pilot to fly while their official pilot only had a private license. Fun!

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article doesn't really cover it but being able to fly without a license probably isn't the same as flying near a controlled (ie. towered) airport. If want to commute and aren't in the middle of nowhere you might find that flying in your local airspace does require a radio license in practice at least. Source: I am a licensed pilot but not familiar with flying in the US.

Huh, TIL. I've seen paragliders fly without headsets though near me (30mins from my states capital). Earning a radio license and getting a comms setup seems trivial though.

The radius of the surface area of a class B airspace (for the busiest airports) might only be about 6 miles.

http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=42.363&lon=-71.006&zoom=10&...

Look for the blue SFC (surface) with a line over it designation around the area for the airport with the multiple concentric blue rings. Those will be class B airports. Typically two rings and magenta will be class C. Class D will be dashed blue.

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part 103 compliant aircraft are meant to have limits low enough to be LESS immediately lethal, but they are still dangerous. Maintenance is absolutely a possible issue, and due to their restrictions the engines are generally MORE needy than normal GA aircraft.

> Maintenance is absolutely a possible issue, and due to their restrictions the engines are generally MORE needy than normal GA aircraft. Interesting! How so? > Part 103 compliant aircraft are meant to have limits low enough to be LESS immediately lethal, but they are still dangerous. What do you have in mind? Quite a lot of what worries me when I fly involves misjudging the combination of weather with the aircraft's…

Part 103 aircraft must have a stall speed under 25 knots and a top powered speed of 55 knots in level flight. I don't fly but I imagine aircraft designed for lower speeds could be more survivable in a crash. Also you need less runway to land

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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post #15

That covers what you can fly. There are also restrictions on when and where you can fly. These are daytime VFR [1] conditions only, only in uncontrolled airspace, cannot fly over cites or towns or large groups of people, cannot create hazards to other people or property, must yield right of way to other aircraft, and must comply with all FAA NOTAMs [2]. [1] Visual Flight Rules. VFR conditions are conditions where you…

It’s also worth noting that “congested areas” are very loosely defined. Eg: It could be interpreted as a group of people sitting on bleachers.

It can and would

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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post #15

That covers what you can fly. There are also restrictions on when and where you can fly. These are daytime VFR [1] conditions only, only in uncontrolled airspace, cannot fly over cites or towns or large groups of people, cannot create hazards to other people or property, must yield right of way to other aircraft, and must comply with all FAA NOTAMs [2]. [1] Visual Flight Rules. VFR conditions are conditions where you…

The lack of mentioning daytime in the article had me worried.

Also there is no flying in an aerodrome and hopefully the person knows what an aerodrome is. Or near hospitals since many are restricted for helicopter air ambulances. Or anywhere near anything military.

I briefly took some flying lessons and there is an enormous amount to know both the flying part and the ground school part.

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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Setting the legalities aside, flying any of these without the training behind a pilot's license sounds like a great way to have some fun, right up until you have a really bad day. Maybe you can skip the license---I haven't looked at those regs myself---but you can't skip the skills. (I'd also want to take a hard look at the design, parts, and maintenance before I flew something like this---but I don't really have the…

+1 - They are simpler and slower, but not really safe without adequate training. Best to get quite a bit of it, though it wouldn't need to be as extensive as a private pilot course.

Re: What planes can you fly without a pilot’s license?

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The Mirocopter SCH-2A meets the FAA requirements so it doesn't require a pilots license. You can buy it for $35k on Ebay [0]. It's cheaper than most cars and gas wise (5 gallons for 50min for flight time) would make it about the same cost as commuting to work in a car. 0. https://www.ebay.com/itm/354879150317

I don't think commuting by helicopter counts as recreational flying, though.
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