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Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#152

Delete this post immediately before your bosses at [redacted] find out, you signed it off too with your name too. SMH

I've removed references to my employer from my HN profile and personal site. Could I ask you to edit your comment and remove that reference as well?

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#153

My main takeaway here is that if OP can make it to Amazon to work on AWS, hell I can make it to a FAANG too.

He worked there as a solutions architect which is a glorified term for slightly technical sales person so I would imagine the interview process being a little easier

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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post #152

Delete this post immediately before your bosses at [redacted] find out, you signed it off too with your name too. SMH

I've removed references to my employer from my HN profile and personal site. Could I ask you to edit your comment and remove that reference as well?

You have to ask dang, time has gone by and cannot edit.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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post #151

Richard Sackler Family Foundation 17 E 62nd St New York City, NY 10065-7204 Telephone: 212-408-5520

I appreciate that you took the effort to create a throwaway account to share this. I'll look into the Sackler Foundation. Thank you.

Ummmm I think that was a joke.

> The Sackler family is an American family who founded and owned the pharmaceutical companies Purdue Pharma and Mundipharma.[1] Purdue Pharma, and some members of the family, have faced lawsuits regarding overprescription of addictive pharmaceutical drugs, including OxyContin. Purdue Pharma has been criticized for its role in the opioid epidemic in the United States.[2][3][4] They have been described as the "most evil family in America",[5][6][7][8] and "the worst drug dealers in history".[9][10]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackler_family

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I appreciate that you took the effort to create a throwaway account to share this. I'll look into the Sackler Foundation. Thank you.

Ummmm I think that was a joke. > The Sackler family is an American family who founded and owned the pharmaceutical companies Purdue Pharma and Mundipharma.[1] Purdue Pharma, and some members of the family, have faced lawsuits regarding overprescription of addictive pharmaceutical drugs, including OxyContin. Purdue Pharma has been criticized for its role in the opioid epidemic in the United States.[2][3][4] They have…

Yes, I was trying to play along, but that probably wasn’t obvious.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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I'm not really sure what your goal here is Chris, you are either trying to do some gorilla marketing campaign for [redacted], or based on your LinkedIn history of only staying at a company in a role for about one year exactly, you are getting the itch to move to something different now once again, so why not have a go at transforming a burgeoning industry like the drug trade?

There is also a third option of this just being a joke and I have to admit it is pretty funny to imagine you on a Zoom call the Cartel, screen sharing some kind of a process deck you made in Google slides.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that you actually are not stupid enough to think you could get on a Zoom call with a cartel member, so that means this is most likely a growth stunt, but I have to second guess myself there too because this post has made you look like such a dunce I can't imagine you showing up to work on Monday proud to share the results of this with the growth team.

Friendly advice for next time would be to post this from an account that is not tied directly to who you are as a person

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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post #136

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You’re thinking of cartel members like they’re VCs. They’re gangsters. They “assert control” over everything and everyone, that’s what gangsters do and they’re literally the worst ones around. There is no way you can do anything with them that will not put yourself and your family in danger

One could argue that cartel members and VCs do share some qualities. But again, your point is well taken and you may very well be right. I won't move forward if there isn't a safe, legal path to do so. I appreciate your feedback.

VCs can destroy your career and finances in safe/legal ways. Cartels don't operate in safe/legal ways. Cartel members snitch on you, can kill you or family members. Cartel members always care about their safety first, not your safety; that means, they can do whatever they want. Just go to https://www.borderlandbeat.com for all narco news.

The kind of naïveté you displayed in this thread shows that you will end up communicating with a fake cartel member, who is some federal law enforcement agent. That agent will set you up on a path of you getting convicted. That's for sure.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#159
Contact a senator. Oh, you mean illegal drugs cartels?

You're not going to do any good because criminals don't give AF about something that isn't their mission. Ending the prohibition War on Drugs is the best path that even LEOs admit is an abject (and racist and classist) failure. [0]

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Action_Partner...

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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post #111

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yes I think he doesnt seem to understand that the absolute last thing that you want is to be known by criminals. For anything. Next time they need an X done where X is whatever your job happens to be, they know who to get

That's not lost on me. Obviously it would be a tough balance to strike to remain "useful" to the cartels, while not being "too useful" that they would feel the need to exert control. That's why I'm interested in educating myself more fully on the whole situation so I can make an informed risk assessment. If there's no path forward that also kept my family and myself safe, I won't pursue it further.

If it's such a great idea, and you're such an altruist, then just post it publically. What's all the secrecy and coyly holding your cards close? Do you think they're going to sign NDAs with an "idea guy"? It's not the idea that matters, it's the execution, and if you're trying to run some kind of a hustle on them where you make any kind of profit or benefit, then it's going to be your execution.
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