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Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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> Emoticons used to be a supplement for words, indicating the tone of the words, but now emoji are a replacement for words, the ultimate illiteracy. People have been using things like "lol" and "lmao" since long before Unicode even existed, let alone emojis.

> People have been using things like "lol" and "lmao" since long before Unicode even existed Sure, but how are emojis superior to this? Text is universally compatible, whereas emoji introduce compatibility and versioning issues across browsers and operating systems. Besides the technical universality of text, it's also demographically universal. We've replaced "lol" with laughing-face-of-specific-skin-color-and-hair-…

> Text is universally compatible, whereas emoji introduce compatibility and versioning issues across browsers and operating systems.

To be specific, they introduce a lot more of such issues, but such issues were already there with plain text as well. Fonts that don't support some characters, fonts where some characters are displayed incorrectly (the whole CJK unification fiasco), fonts where some characters are not distinguished (I've run into the is-this-an-I-or-an-l issue quite a few times, personally).

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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The consistency is that if you use a (mushroom) emoji as an icon for your stuff, users on Windows will immediately know what it is because they are aware of how the emojis on their OS work. Same with Android, iOS, etc. Not that all emojis are the same across all devices.

This is less consistent than images, which are generally rendered the same on all devices. Worse, though, is the broken black boxes that appear when someone uses a newer emoji that your browser or operating system version doesn't yet support, which happens all of the time.

Not sure why you're being so argumentative about a misunderstanding of definitions?

Users know what emoji are, full stop, and you don't have to serve images (which can be expensive). Is it perfect? No, but nothing is.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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In other words you succumbed to peer pressure from a crowd that is obsessed with identity labels. I see people of all shades use tones. To me it just says "btw I'm ". I can't help but think "who cares" in the back of my mind. I don't think yellow icons "represent me" either, I'm not self-inserting into The Simpsons. At the risk of being overly dramatic for a discussion about emoji, I think that dismissing the concept…

The Simpsons features non-yellow characters. Yellow characters are white. Lego actually is a stronger precedent for ‘yellow is what color you make a person when you don’t mean to identify race’. Once they started adding movie character minifigs they introduced white skin as well. But the journey there also gives the lie to ‘yellow minifigs we’re never coded white’. The very first Star Wars Lego sets shipped with yell…

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Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Nobody has a light yellow colour. It was chosen so as to not to refer to any ethnicity in particular. BTW. If your skin actually has turned yellow then you should seek the nearest hospital emergency room ASAP, because it can be a sign of acute liver failure.

Like another commenter said in a sibling thread, yellow is still a non-dark color, and yellow characters represent white people in cartoons like The Simpsons.

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Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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I don't know if there's a default OS solution that's any good, but I have a file of emoji + their text names and I use bemenu (like dmenu) to filter through it by name and put the selection on my clipboard. I bind this script to super-z on my keyboard in my Sway config. I based it on something[0] I found online that used dmenu or rofi and input the text for you. I adapted it to work better on Wayland by using a Wayla…

Windows, macOS, iOS, and Android all have dedicated emoji keyboards with search readily accessible. All Apple keyboard (software or hardware) from the last… 5(?) years have a button to bring it up!

Though in Linux there isn't only one window manager. This guy/woman/? chose to use his specific window manager (probably a tiling one), but he/she/xe could also use GNOME if he/she/xe wanted to. GNOME does have an emoji keyboard.

btw, this is much cooler than GNOME or whatever...

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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The great thing about emojis is that you can still use emoticons :). Don't even have to worry about its skin color. Ambiguity is a feature. It also doesn't try to steal your attention like everything else on the modern web.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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I wonder if they're ever going to decide that enough emoji is enough, or will continue adding more until every word in the dictionary is an emoji. There have been some ridiculous inclusions in the past years despite more obvious candidates that are still missing. The great thing about emoji used to be the constraints, which made for a clear overview of available emoji and made people use the limited set in creative w…

I genuinely hope that emojis keep being added. A lot of meaning can be packed into a single emoji which (usually) transcends language and culture. It's been fascinating to see emoji work their way into everyday usage, even in professional settings. I would love to see the day where emoji becomes a viable form of cross-cultural shorthand.

> I would love to see the day where emoji becomes a viable form of cross-cultural shorthand.

I have my doubts regarding this. We're already seeing a situation where different groups within a single culture, the young and the old, use many common emoji in ways that differ dramatically (at least in the west), sometimes even with opposing meanings. If the meanings of emoji aren't stable even within a single culture, how could they ever hope to transcend culture?

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Windows, macOS, iOS, and Android all have dedicated emoji keyboards with search readily accessible. All Apple keyboard (software or hardware) from the last… 5(?) years have a button to bring it up!

Though in Linux there isn't only one window manager. This guy/woman/? chose to use his specific window manager (probably a tiling one), but he/she/xe could also use GNOME if he/she/xe wanted to. GNOME does have an emoji keyboard. btw, this is much cooler than GNOME or whatever...

> They chose to use their specific window manager (probably a tiling one), but they could also use GNOME if they wanted to. GNOME does have an emoji keyboard.

There you go! Made it much easier for you and the reader!

But really,

> I'm not sure which window manager they're using, but GNOME does have an emoji keyboard

Even better!

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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This is less consistent than images, which are generally rendered the same on all devices. Worse, though, is the broken black boxes that appear when someone uses a newer emoji that your browser or operating system version doesn't yet support, which happens all of the time.

Not sure why you're being so argumentative about a misunderstanding of definitions? Users know what emoji are, full stop, and you don't have to serve images (which can be expensive). Is it perfect? No, but nothing is.

> Not sure why you're being so argumentative about a misunderstanding of definitions?

There's no misunderstanding of definitions. The argument is about whether emojis are "really a win win". I don't think they are, for reasons I've explained. Specifically, with regard to needing icons for "berries and maybe more vegetables", you can already do this with small jpgs that would not take much bandwidth, and in general there's more consistency in jpg support across different software then there is in emoji support.

Waiting for the Unicode committee to add emoji for every possible object in the world seems like madness to me.

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