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Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by Someone »

I can think of only one reason you would want to meet cartels face-to-face: because you want a cut of the profits. If you get that, that would make you a criminal. Do you want to be one?

If not, why don’t you just publish your idea and be the one who reduced fentanyl deaths and violence?

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by gymbeaux »

csears wrote: post #64
ss1996 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fyi, Fentanyl strips are not full proof. This is because the amount of Fentanyl mixed is so small, there is high likelihood that no Fentanyl is picked up in the tested sample. In other words, high chance of false negatives. Test kits + narcan on hand is the best way to be safe.

That's good to know. I've only done a little initial research around this. I ordered some test strips from a manufacture called MD-Bio ( https://mdbio.com ). I'll be sure to review all their instructions and safety info. Out of curiosity, are you saying that a Fentanyl level can be so low that it's undetectable by the test strips, but still high enough to kill someone?

I would surmise that it’s possible for fentanyl to be in one part of the “drug” but not the part that is necessarily used on the test strip?

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by tsuujin »

csears wrote: post #49
valar_m wrote: post #43

Don't stress about the cartel. You'll be arrested long before you ever get into contact with them. Instead, here a few things to help minimize the number of years you'll spend in prison away from your daughter and the rest of your family. You mentioned meeting with the DEA in another comment. Bring a lawyer when you go. You'll have to call around to find one who will agree to put you in jeopardy of criminal prosecuti…

I appreciate your comment, but it feels a bit cynical to be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. Then again, I don't have much experience with either, so maybe I'm being naive. That was partially why I was asking how to find a lawyer who deals with situations like this.

I had a friend of the family killed by a drug cartel from Mexico. They had a relative in Mexico refuse to pay protection money (or some other scam, it’s not entirely clear) so the cartel crossed into the US and killed the entire family to send a message or some such nonsense.

Cartels do not fuck around.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by csears »

kordlessagain wrote: post #100
Michelangelo11 wrote: post #89

This is a phenomenally bad idea for many reasons, but let's just look at what would happen if somehow you fully succeed at what you're trying to do and you start working with cartels. If that happens, you are in bed with some of the most ruthless and powerful people in the world, who can certainly kill you and/or your family members even if you're in the U.S., if they want to kill you bad enough. And if you somehow m…

The only important reason this particular ego fueled "idea" is a bad one is because if someone is actively involved in planning or conspiring to commit a crime, they may be held liable for their actions. Intent and preparation to engage in illegal activities can have legal consequences, even if the actual crime is not carried out. This post should be flagged and taken down.

I appreciate the feedback. I don't have a way to prove it, but I'm really not concerned with ego/fame in any of this. I've also stated several places that I plan to get legal advice from a real lawyer before moving forward with anything. As far as I know, I haven't discussed doing anything illegal. I've clearly said that if there is not a legal path forward, I'll drop the idea.

Also, the post did get flagged last night. I emailed the moderation team and asked if I had broken some rule / guideline with the post. Dang said I had not and unflagged it.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by ttul »

fhaldridge7 wrote: post #28
NotDEA wrote: post #25

Hey Chris, I’m a pretty high ranking member in the Sinaloa Cartel that also browses HN in my free time. Customers always come first in our line of work, so I’m always looking for ways to provide a high quality, safe experience with the drugs we provide and this idea sounds like it could be a game changer not just for us cartels, but also for savvy entrepreneurs like yourself. I reached out directly to the email you p…

Hello Chris, I'm the leader of the IBF Cartel. We are a new player on the market and I recommend choosing us instead of the Sinaloa Cartel. When not promoting the growth and productivity of our farmers through proactive measures I also like to chill and answer Ask HN posts. We are a next-generation cartel transforming the way drugs reach your table. We are revolutionizing the entire drug supply chain by leveraging cu…

Oh, hello Chris. I work for yet another competing cartel and we would also _love_ to get in touch and discuss the idea in detail. To skip the formalities and get right down to business, we’ve already got someone watching your mother’s house in Indiana. And your sister’s kids are so cute! Did she tell you Ms. Carter gave Sally a gold ribbon at yesterdays’s track meet? What a kid! I guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree - her dad was a track star back at Dayville High in 1999, winning first place in high jump. Shame about his twisted ankle injury last June. Yes, we’ve seen the medical records.

We love to know our partners better than they know themselves and we look forward to working with you. For the rest of your brief life.

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