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Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#91
The only thing I can think of for this is you have some idea to chemically alter the drug to make it less lethal. If so, consider if it's possible they already know and have chosen not to do it. Why would that be? To not hurt their margins it would need to add zero cost to production (unlikely), not decrease the addictiveness, and not affect their ability to transport it.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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I'm not saying that federal agents are more dangerous than drug cartels. I'm saying that you're going to end up being arrested before you get the chance to find out.

I see your point. That is certainly a possibility. Although it would be highly inconvenient to be arrested or get in trouble with the feds, it would make for an interesting story at parties. That's always been something I've struggled with. So... silver lining? A lot of historical figures I respect have been arrested for standing by their convictions. So I would be in good company. It also could turn into a good oppo…

Intending to aid an abit drug cartels is not the equivalent of a night an the slammer. It's an extremely serious federal crime, you will spend a substantial amount of time in prison, and you will never be allowed to work for any government contractor/sub-contractor, nor in finance (FINRA will straight up pull an organization's membership if they discover you are working for them)

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#93
I wouldn't do it if I were you. Perhaps you can hire someone with extremely good SecOps skills who is willing to.

Off the top of my head though my "idea-marketing" strategy for your case, would be:

- Contact narco influencers on Tiktok & other social platforms

- Contact narco lawyers & ask them to forward your message

- Take out entire page advertisements in main Mexican newspapers for 1-2 months

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Hey Chris, I’m a pretty high ranking member in the Sinaloa Cartel that also browses HN in my free time. Customers always come first in our line of work, so I’m always looking for ways to provide a high quality, safe experience with the drugs we provide and this idea sounds like it could be a game changer not just for us cartels, but also for savvy entrepreneurs like yourself. I reached out directly to the email you p…

This is the reason why I love HN

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#96
What makes you think these fentanyl deaths are accidental and not warfare by alternative means? Profits? If they can make their enemy pay for their own destruction, so much the better! But is the point truly profit or the destabilization of neighboring nations with an aim of a form of 'Reconquista' type movement?

I'm sorry but you strike me as criminally naive.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#98

One of the reasons I wish liveleak were still around is so people like you could see the world that most people don't get to see. If only you could see just one video from there with "cartel" in the title. Would give you a much-needed dose of reality.

It's Kaotic now.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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No, I wouldn't want to be morally culpable for providing even a trifiling motivation for you to become the punchline of a morbid XKCD comic.

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If you fail, you'll probably be too dismembered (or too jailed) to pay anyone anything.

Honestly I can't believe a grown adult with a daughter old enough to be starting college says he wants to get into business with Mexican cartels just to prove a random internet stranger wrong. It sounds like a 10-year-old's understanding of the world.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

#100

This is a phenomenally bad idea for many reasons, but let's just look at what would happen if somehow you fully succeed at what you're trying to do and you start working with cartels. If that happens, you are in bed with some of the most ruthless and powerful people in the world, who can certainly kill you and/or your family members even if you're in the U.S., if they want to kill you bad enough. And if you somehow m…

The only important reason this particular ego fueled "idea" is a bad one is because if someone is actively involved in planning or conspiring to commit a crime, they may be held liable for their actions. Intent and preparation to engage in illegal activities can have legal consequences, even if the actual crime is not carried out.

This post should be flagged and taken down.

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