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Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by eloisius »

chromoblob wrote: post #45
eloisius wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s unlike language because words can fluidly be invented or fall out of use. Emoji is designed by a committee. If it expands to include everything it will just be unusable. Why not just use pictures at that point anyway?

Why do you think it will be unusable? Chinese and Japanese have IME.

I input Chinese everyday and it’s fairly simple. You input a phonetic sequence and choose the character. I already find it hard to use emoji. It takes forever to scan through the faces to find the one I want, and search online sometimes helps because emoji often have a popular use that isn’t congruent with their “official” purpose.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by RobotToaster »

johnofthesea wrote: post #21
matsemann wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There have been some ridiculous inclusions in the past years despite more obvious candidates that are still missing. Well, obvious missing to you . That's probably why it will always expand, no one will agree on when it's done, including you. ;)

I use Emojis for my gardening site as icons for taxonomical families. So I would welcome some berries and maybe more vegetables.

Have you looked at fork awesome? It's an icon toolkit that basically gives you a lot more emojis https://forkaweso.me/Fork-Awesome/

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by lapcat »

pflenker wrote: post #10
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #2

I might be old, but I miss the times when a few characters ( ":) :( :D :P :> :-) ") were enough, and I didn't have to update my fonts every now and then so I wouldn't see empty square in text.

You are comparing the benefits of the „good old times“ from the drawbacks of the present. Drawbacks from the past include that the number of things you could express with ascii emojis is very limited, anything that goes beyond the usual palette of emotions required explanation and context, and several old school emotes or single line ascii art require a monospaced font to be rendered in an understandable way. Another…

> You are comparing the benefits of the „good old times“ from the drawbacks of the present. Drawbacks from the past include that the number of things you could express with ascii emojis is very limited, anything that goes beyond the usual palette of emotions required explanation and context

Here's a crazy idea: how about people use words to describe their feelings? Or is that too "old school"?

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by capableweb »

johannes1234321 wrote: post #32
dexwell wrote: post #5

I wonder if they're ever going to decide that enough emoji is enough, or will continue adding more until every word in the dictionary is an emoji. There have been some ridiculous inclusions in the past years despite more obvious candidates that are still missing. The great thing about emoji used to be the constraints, which made for a clear overview of available emoji and made people use the limited set in creative w…

> I wonder if they're ever going to decide that enough emoji is enough, Really hard to do by this time. Since they allowed so many it's harder to say no. They have a burrito, but why no kebap, yet? They have person's playing basketball or golfing, but no person playing football (any variant) putting a stop to it gives an arbitrary set and restricts representing develoment in society (they have kick scooters which are…

There is a precedent (https://blog.unicode.org/2022/03/the-past-and-future-of-flag...) to stop accepting new emojis in certain categories, so the hope is not fully out that that can happen to other sections. Maybe at one point they say "We won't be accepting Emoji proposals regarding sports anymore, unless they're listed by X entity or in the Plympics", or something like that.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by post-it »

lapcat wrote: post #47
dexwell wrote: post #5

I wonder if they're ever going to decide that enough emoji is enough, or will continue adding more until every word in the dictionary is an emoji. There have been some ridiculous inclusions in the past years despite more obvious candidates that are still missing. The great thing about emoji used to be the constraints, which made for a clear overview of available emoji and made people use the limited set in creative w…

This is why I stopped using emoji 5 years and never looked back. It's a really stupidly designed system if you need operating system updates just to read text! I won't participate in that insanity anymore. Emoji have become trite, lazy, and practically meaningless, especially a few such as "face with tears of joy", "rolling on the floor laughing face", and "fire". Emoticons used to be a supplement for words, indicati…

> The reductio ad absurdum is the recent Canadian legal case where the court determined that a "thumbs up" emoji signals a binding contract.

Why do you believe so?

If "Looks good," "Ok," and "Yup" signal a binding contract, as detailed in the case you're talking about, I contend it's perfectly reasonable for :thumbsup: to also signal a binding contract between the same parties. [0]

Consider:

> 5. For instance, on July 14, 2020, after discussing and agreeing on a contract with Chris Achter, I prepared a contract for the sale of 185 metric tons [sic] of durum wheat from Achter Ltd. to SWT for a price of $312.31 per ton [sic]. I signed the contract and then took a photo of it using my cell phone and sent it to Chris at 306-264-7664. I messaged: “Please confirm terms of durum contract.” Chris texted me back: “Looks good”. At the time, I understood this to be that Chris was agreeing to the contract and this was his way of signally [sic] that agreement. Achter Ltd. delivered on this contract without issue. A copy of the contract and text message is attached as Exhibit “B”.

> 6. On September 11, 2020, after discussing and agreeing on a contract with Chris Acter [sic], I prepared a contract for the sale of 131 metric tons [sic] of durum wheat from Achter Ltd. to SWT for a price of $284.77 per ton [sic]. I signed the contract and then took a photo of it using my cell phone and sent it to Chris at 306-264-7664. I messaged: “Please confirm terms of durum contract”. Chris texted me back: “Ok”. At that time, I understood this to be that Chris was agreeing to the contract and this was his way of signally [sic] that agreement. Achter Ltd. delivered on this contract without issue. A copy of the contract and the text messages is attached as Exhibit “C”.

> 7. On October 21, 2020, after discussing and agreeing on a contract with Chris Acter [sic], I prepared a contract for the sale of 395 metric tons [sic] of durum wheat from Achter Ltd. to SWT for a price of $308.65 per ton [sic]. I signed the contract and then took a photo of it using my cell phone and sent it to Chris at 306-264-7664. I messaged: “Please confirm terms of durum contract”. Chris texted me back: “Yup”. At that time, I understood this to be that Chris was agreeing to the contract and this was his way of signally [sic] that agreement. Achter Ltd. delivered on this contract without issue. A copy of the contract and the text messages is attached as Exhibit “D”.

[0] https://www.canlii.org/en/sk/skkb/doc/2023/2023skkb116/2023s...

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by lapcat »

post-it wrote: post #56
lapcat wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I stopped using emoji 5 years and never looked back. It's a really stupidly designed system if you need operating system updates just to read text! I won't participate in that insanity anymore. Emoji have become trite, lazy, and practically meaningless, especially a few such as "face with tears of joy", "rolling on the floor laughing face", and "fire". Emoticons used to be a supplement for words, indicati…

> The reductio ad absurdum is the recent Canadian legal case where the court determined that a "thumbs up" emoji signals a binding contract. Why do you believe so? If "Looks good," "Ok," and "Yup" signal a binding contract, as detailed in the case you're talking about, I contend it's perfectly reasonable for :thumbsup: to also signal a binding contract between the same parties. [0] Consider: > 5. For instance, on Jul…

> If "Looks good," "Ok," and "Yup" signal a binding contract, as detailed in the case you're talking about, I contend it's perfectly reasonable for :thumbsup: to also signal a binding contract between the same parties.

I wasn't criticizing the decision in the case. I'm neither a lawyer nor a Canadian and have no opinion about that.

I was criticizing the entire situation, the absurdity of emoji becoming a matter of legal controversy.

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by bombolo »

voxadam wrote: post #33
bombolo wrote: post #16

I just want the sicilian flag in :( The rip off of the isle of man is in, but not sicily :(

It looks like, at least for the time being, the Unicode Consortium isn't accepting any new flag emoji.[0] While I don't necessarily support their position I can understand it. The amount of international pressure to support or oppose the recognition of some flags (e.g. Republic of China AKA Taiwan, Tibet, Crimea, Kosovo, Abkhazia etc.) is likely substantial. [0] https://blog.unicode.org/2022/03/the-past-and-future-of…

there is one per every region of italy, but i don't understand what the status is.

https://emojipedia.org/flag-for-sicily-it82/

Re: New emojis in 2023-2024

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Post by chromoblob »

eloisius wrote: post #51
chromoblob wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think it will be unusable? Chinese and Japanese have IME.

I input Chinese everyday and it’s fairly simple. You input a phonetic sequence and choose the character. I already find it hard to use emoji. It takes forever to scan through the faces to find the one I want, and search online sometimes helps because emoji often have a popular use that isn’t congruent with their “official” purpose.

Just wait for or create an Emoji IME which suggests emoji based on name. This already exists in Windows 10.
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