Honestly?
Go to federal prison.
You'll make the contacts necessary to do whatever you're trying to do.
Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
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Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#52Would be easier with European cartels, where the whole economy is cartel-based. Not just the illegal criminal organizations in the US. In Germany or France they won't kill you, in Russia the danger is higher.
That's a really good point. Maybe I could start with they less murder-y cartels to establish some credibility, and then work my way up to the more murder-y ones.
Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#53Don't stress about the cartel. You'll be arrested long before you ever get into contact with them. Instead, here a few things to help minimize the number of years you'll spend in prison away from your daughter and the rest of your family. You mentioned meeting with the DEA in another comment. Bring a lawyer when you go. You'll have to call around to find one who will agree to put you in jeopardy of criminal prosecuti…
I appreciate your comment, but it feels a bit cynical to be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. Then again, I don't have much experience with either, so maybe I'm being naive. That was partially why I was asking how to find a lawyer who deals with situations like this.
The feds are lawful evil. The cartels range from chaotic neutral to chaotic evil.
Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#54Nice try DEA
Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#55Short answer: you cannot safely contact drug cartels, and merely publicly stating the intention to do so to pitch an idea about how to reduce their visibility to law enforcement and increase their operating/profit margins creates non-negligible personal jeopardy. > I assume the cartel leaders are essentially profit motivated, and would be interested in something that would prevent their customers from dying, cut down…
I do see your points and appreciate the reasoning.
I definitely will not move forward with anything before getting good legal advice from an actual lawyer.
One of my main reasons for wanting to meet with the cartels is just to make my intentions clear, trying to proactively avoid any misunderstandings. I've generally found that powerful people / organizations respond better when you check in with them first before getting involved with any of their stuff.
Perhaps it would be sufficient to just be very open about my plans and hope they happen to read my blog. One-way communication is better than no communication.
Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#56I promise your idea isn't as good as you think and you aren't the person that could bring it to fruition anyway.
I guess we'll find out :)
Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#57I promise your idea isn't as good as you think and you aren't the person that could bring it to fruition anyway.
I guess we'll find out :)
We won't. You will sober up and realise illegally going into business with drug cartels to make their fentanyl distribution more efficient was highly misguided, speaking charitably.
Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#58Short answer: you cannot safely contact drug cartels, and merely publicly stating the intention to do so to pitch an idea about how to reduce their visibility to law enforcement and increase their operating/profit margins creates non-negligible personal jeopardy. > I assume the cartel leaders are essentially profit motivated, and would be interested in something that would prevent their customers from dying, cut down…
I do see your points and appreciate the reasoning. I definitely will not move forward with anything before getting good legal advice from an actual lawyer. One of my main reasons for wanting to meet with the cartels is just to make my intentions clear, trying to proactively avoid any misunderstandings. I've generally found that powerful people / organizations respond better when you check in with them first before ge…
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Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?
#59Don't stress about the cartel. You'll be arrested long before you ever get into contact with them. Instead, here a few things to help minimize the number of years you'll spend in prison away from your daughter and the rest of your family. You mentioned meeting with the DEA in another comment. Bring a lawyer when you go. You'll have to call around to find one who will agree to put you in jeopardy of criminal prosecuti…
I appreciate your comment, but it feels a bit cynical to be more afraid of federal agents than drug cartels. Then again, I don't have much experience with either, so maybe I'm being naive. That was partially why I was asking how to find a lawyer who deals with situations like this.
I'm not saying that federal agents are more dangerous than drug cartels. I'm saying that you're going to end up being arrested before you get the chance to find out.