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Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by raincom »

csears wrote: post #20
discretion22 wrote: post #17

I thought this was some sort of parody or joke - it sounds like some sort of Nigerian Prince scam pitch - but from your responses you are either genius at playing the whole thing straight or you are seriously out your depth and literally risking your life for no good reason. First off, saying that you have an idea to "improve their [Cartels] profit margins" by itself is enough to fall foul of the US DEA. Even if you…

Nope, not a joke. Currently more of a thought experiment that could turn into a startup if it really seems viable. I'm in the US and I would actually be very interested in chatting with the DEA about my idea. If it turns out there is no legal way to move ahead with my idea, I won't pursue it further. As I said, I'm not even sure what kind of lawyer I could contact to get advice about this kind of thing. Saul Goodman?…

Be careful dealing with federal agents and federal agencies. They can get you for "lying to federal agents". Always have a lawyer next to you, so that this lawyer can take notes, thereby preventing you from being charged under "trumped up charges". I don't know why you are exploring this area, unless you want to spend some time in some federal penitentiary.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by Fricken »

raincom wrote: post #11

Have you read the court transcripts of El Chapo trial? Maybe, better read them, before you think you can safely contact drug cartels. Drug cartels are at least three moves away from your local drug dealer. Cartel folks deal with the wholesale distributors, who are some high level gang operatives. So, you can't even go past the first two levels, let alone the local high level gang operatives. These high level wholesal…

I stayed in a small village In Michoacan on the pacific coast in Mexico for a few weeks on a surf trip. This was 2009, but everybody in town knew "The Big Guy".

He paid for schools and roads, ate at the local restaurants, attended church on special occasions.

I wouldn't argue there's a safe or easy way to get access to a guy like this, but I doubt it's necessary to go to through drug supply chain. Make friends with the locals.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by csears »

raincom wrote: post #22
csears wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, not a joke. Currently more of a thought experiment that could turn into a startup if it really seems viable. I'm in the US and I would actually be very interested in chatting with the DEA about my idea. If it turns out there is no legal way to move ahead with my idea, I won't pursue it further. As I said, I'm not even sure what kind of lawyer I could contact to get advice about this kind of thing. Saul Goodman?…

Be careful dealing with federal agents and federal agencies. They can get you for "lying to federal agents". Always have a lawyer next to you, so that this lawyer can take notes, thereby preventing you from being charged under "trumped up charges". I don't know why you are exploring this area, unless you want to spend some time in some federal penitentiary.

Good advice. I know there have been situations where federal agencies have turned out to be "the bad guys", but I guess I'm optimistic that they are generally smart, well intentioned, and interested in some of the same outcomes that I'm talking about.

As to why I'm exploring this, it's just a topic I've been thinking about lately. My daughter is starting college in the fall and they've had a lot of deaths over the last few years from fentanyl in pot. I plan to send her with a bunch of fentanyl test strips. If she ends up using them for herself or friends or other random college kids, it could very realistically save a life. Depending on how that goes, I'm also looking at a program to get fentanyl test strips to college kids for free on a larger scale.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by NotDEA »

Hey Chris, I’m a pretty high ranking member in the Sinaloa Cartel that also browses HN in my free time.

Customers always come first in our line of work, so I’m always looking for ways to provide a high quality, safe experience with the drugs we provide and this idea sounds like it could be a game changer not just for us cartels, but also for savvy entrepreneurs like yourself.

I reached out directly to the email you provided in your bio (p.s. thanks for making it your real first and last name so there is no confusion on my end) and am eagerly awaiting your reply.

Re: Ask HN: How could I safely contact drug cartels?

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Post by fhaldridge7 »

NotDEA wrote: post #25

Hey Chris, I’m a pretty high ranking member in the Sinaloa Cartel that also browses HN in my free time. Customers always come first in our line of work, so I’m always looking for ways to provide a high quality, safe experience with the drugs we provide and this idea sounds like it could be a game changer not just for us cartels, but also for savvy entrepreneurs like yourself. I reached out directly to the email you p…

Hello Chris, I'm the leader of the IBF Cartel. We are a new player on the market and I recommend choosing us instead of the Sinaloa Cartel. When not promoting the growth and productivity of our farmers through proactive measures I also like to chill and answer Ask HN posts.

We are a next-generation cartel transforming the way drugs reach your table. We are revolutionizing the entire drug supply chain by leveraging cutting-edge technology, new exploitation practices, and a customer-centric approach.

We kindly request that you provide your contact information, including your full name, address, and phone number, in order for us to reach out to you.

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