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WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Its cool and I get it, but how is this useful other than good marketing? If an app's code is run on a device, any rooted device could just modify its memory and do whatever it wants. Just ask a game developer about the infinite anti-cheating war that they deal with.

Could you expand? I don't follow. WordPress is open source, you can already download it and do whatever you want.

My point was no one would ever run a web app's backend in the browser. Not speaking specifically to Wordpress.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Its cool and I get it, but how is this useful other than good marketing? If an app's code is run on a device, any rooted device could just modify its memory and do whatever it wants. Just ask a game developer about the infinite anti-cheating war that they deal with.

> ...any rooted device could just modify its memory and do whatever it wants Like what? Change a heading? Or, create a blog post that only exists on this device?

My point was no one would ever run a web app's backend in the browser. Not speaking specifically to Wordpress.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Wordpress is one of those things I've plenty of experience with, but leave off my résumé and avoid mentioning to bosses and colleagues, so I won't get roped into that bullshit if it comes up—and it often does , sooner or later. "Wordpress? I can take a look if you need me to, but I don't really know much about that. I think Fred said something about Wordpress the other day, maybe ask him...." I've known others who co…

I have thought about making a plugin. The plugin documentation/architecture is a bit gnarly (at least from what I remember). That being said, I feel like most WordPress plugins are awful. I've sometimes wondered if I could make a better version of X plugin, but I fear I'm missing something - like providing customer support or covering every version of WP.

You could look into making single purpose blocks. Then you can get listed in the block inserter upon search an site owners an install your block right from there. Some plugin developers made great inroads in active installs with this more friction less process. Once your block/plugin is installed you can provide links in the sidebar to more expansive plugins or premium versions.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Hijacking the spirit of this link to just saying that I'm very sad about what Wordpress has become. In my mind it was a very good website / blogging platform, with a clear and functional markup / raw code editor.

Building themes was easy, and so was the plugging ecosystem.

I installed the latest version ~6 months ago, and I found myself overly confused by the million of options, the poor functionality of the block system, and the overall bloating of the software. It just run slower than 10 years ago. The templates and plugin available out there are extremely complex and a lot harder to read, code wise.

I assume is a 'dead by 1000 papercuts, or customer demands, in this case' but from a product standpoint, I'd really love to know who are the personas that this new interpretation of wordpress cater to.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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RIP static site generators. Just run this in your browser and export a static site. No more complicated setups. No more running ruby in docker or fighting hugo templates. Install the themes and plugins and go nuts! /hottake

how would you export a static site if you are running on the browser? you can do some cache management with local storage, or just leverage the browser built in system, but as every rendering session is on the edge, you would not have the benefit of a static site.

Or are you talking about, developing it on the browser, export it and upload it somewhere as static files for internet access (eg a cheap host with no server side languages)?

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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I've always found WordPress performance doesn't change much on lower vs higher end hardware. It seems to be limited by itself.

What's the answer to making WordPress sites faster? I too have tried better hardware, CDNs, plugins like WP Super Cache, and others means of optimizing. Very little impact. Is the problem PHP? I'm thinking of trying one of those plugins that convert the WordPress site to static web site. I'd imagine that'd have a big impact, at least for sites that don't need e.g. login, shopping carts, etc.

I worked on a Strattic conversion some time back - they basically scrape all your pages and serve them statically, but you do have to do some things to support search, forms, etc and you'll end up pruning plugins that don't work well with it.

But, serving static pages is very very fast afterwards.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Domains are my vice. Also have w.org. Ma.tt. I would rather have a cool IP address (like Cloudflare's) or domain than a fancy car or boat.

The link in your profile doesnt work - http://www.justin.tv/startupschool/b/298808177

I assume it's this: https://twitch.tv/videos/45877747

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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post #29

No need to dunk on wordpress but it has a lot of history and issues. It would be great to have a modern alternative self-hosted solution that doesn't require static site generation or complex hosting.

Ok. Here it is: https://github.com/Qbix/Platform

Oh no. Still the mouse movement animation on the website? It made me not read further down the page.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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post #100
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I've always found WordPress performance doesn't change much on lower vs higher end hardware. It seems to be limited by itself.

What's the answer to making WordPress sites faster? I too have tried better hardware, CDNs, plugins like WP Super Cache, and others means of optimizing. Very little impact. Is the problem PHP? I'm thinking of trying one of those plugins that convert the WordPress site to static web site. I'd imagine that'd have a big impact, at least for sites that don't need e.g. login, shopping carts, etc.

Redis or memcache plus a full page caching solution plug-in, mainly.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Absolutely. The other day, I took my slow Wordpress server hosted at Vultr on bare metal (£200/pm) and put it on a server at £500 per month and even after doing all the performance tuning I could with MySQL and PHP I couldn’t notice a difference in speed when I was on the back-end where Cloudflare wasn’t caching it. I then tested on a lower performance server which costs £80 per month at Vultr and again couldn’t dete…

Just come to WP.com and we'll run it super-fast, auto-updated, and secure for $25/mo.

I don’t work for Automattic but after spending years trying to “save money” on wordpress hosting I agree just spend the extra cash for a proper managed soloution. Life is too short to spend optimizing page load for your marketing site when its already a solved problem
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