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WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Post by quickthrower2 »

bamfly wrote: post #33
graiz wrote: post #29

No need to dunk on wordpress but it has a lot of history and issues. It would be great to have a modern alternative self-hosted solution that doesn't require static site generation or complex hosting.

Any competitor has a nasty chicken/egg problem to overcome. Wordpress is still hard to avoid because there's a plugin—usually with paid support available—that can do damn near anything. The codebase isn't great, developing against it sucks, and the way it's designed and the official store curated does nothing to prevent some real messes & risks on the database side—but, two days of set-up and $80/m in plugins/themes…

Damn right. Forget nocode platforms, you can build sophisticated apps by choosing the right plugin combo. And edit some PHP files if needed (or add your own plugin for bespoke stuff).

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Post by pentagrama »

imilk wrote: post #40
whyage wrote: post #6

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What no-code alternative would you recommend for pro web designers?

Wordpress is still great for downloading a theme from Themeforest to get brochure style sites (restaurant, simple small business, etc) up and running pretty fast. It is not great (possibly horrendous) for revisiting a few years later when all the plugins/theme/core needs to be updated and a bunch of different people have added custom JS/CSS all over in random places. It's hard to reconcile "pro web designer" with no-…

In my experience, I bought some pro/high sellers/high rated themes on Theme Forest for 3 sites, but all of them come with a bunch of pre-installed plugins, and was a mess.

Specially two who have a mandatory plugin to edit pages, called WPBakery, damn I hated it, is awful, the native WP editor is miles away (Gutenberg), but the design will brake if you use Gutenberg. Also, this and other plugins do not auto-update automatically, for each update you have to login to a site of the theme seller, download a zip, and update the plugin manually. And also on the admin you always gets upsells of the pre-installed plugins all the time, you can't disable it, sometimes you get a rack of 3 top banners simultaneously.

The end user sites looked really nice tho, but the editing experience was horrible.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Post by b0ner_t0ner »

photomatt wrote: post #126
ushakov wrote: post #121

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I know. Still curious about the 2-letter .com though

Domains are my vice. Also have w.org. Ma.tt. I would rather have a cool IP address (like Cloudflare's) or domain than a fancy car or boat.

When are .wp TLDs coming?

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Post by robjan »

judah wrote: post #100
Saris wrote: post #84

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I've always found WordPress performance doesn't change much on lower vs higher end hardware. It seems to be limited by itself.

What's the answer to making WordPress sites faster? I too have tried better hardware, CDNs, plugins like WP Super Cache, and others means of optimizing. Very little impact. Is the problem PHP? I'm thinking of trying one of those plugins that convert the WordPress site to static web site. I'd imagine that'd have a big impact, at least for sites that don't need e.g. login, shopping carts, etc.

Mine renders pages in under 50ms under BAU load and it's hosted on a $1/month cPanel. The only trick I have used is to run it on PHP 8.1 with Lightspeed Cache

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #142

RIP static site generators. Just run this in your browser and export a static site. No more complicated setups. No more running ruby in docker or fighting hugo templates. Install the themes and plugins and go nuts! /hottake

Tools for that purpose already existed, e.g. WP2Static.

Re: WordPress Playground: A WordPress that runs entirely in the browser

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Post by goldenkey »

photomatt wrote: post #115
WhackyIdeas wrote: post #93

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Absolutely. The other day, I took my slow Wordpress server hosted at Vultr on bare metal (£200/pm) and put it on a server at £500 per month and even after doing all the performance tuning I could with MySQL and PHP I couldn’t notice a difference in speed when I was on the back-end where Cloudflare wasn’t caching it. I then tested on a lower performance server which costs £80 per month at Vultr and again couldn’t dete…

Just come to WP.com and we'll run it super-fast, auto-updated, and secure for $25/mo.

Does wordpress.com used a forked version? Last time I remember that the custom themes were limited for the hosted solution. Maybe this was for performance reasons?
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