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Yeah - none of this reporting can be trusted from the chronicle, the SF politics are crazy and there’s a lot of bullshit/bad-faith. I hope cruise overcomes this and the people putting traffic comes and such on the cars are stopped.
none of this reporting can be trusted from the chronicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger
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The national average rate has a denominator that is bloated up with easy freeway miles. Cruise and Waymo never leave SF city streets.
> Although 20 percent of people in the U.S. live in rural areas and 32 percent of the vehicle miles traveled occur in rural areas, 40 percent of crash deaths occur there. https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/urban...
> Compared with urban areas, crash deaths in rural areas in 2021 were less likely to occur on interstates and freeways (14 percent compared with 21 percent) and on other arterial roads (23 percent compared with 58 percent) and more likely to occur on collector roads (44 percent compared with 11 percent) and local roads (19 percent compared with 11 percent).
In other words, majority of rural traffic deaths are not on freeways.
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I don't know why the other reply to this post got downvoted to hell. THe person has a point. Fully autonomous cars are cool... don't get me wrong. But electric cars and autonomous electric/gas cars are probably not the right solution to our person transport needs. using energy to move a 4000 lb vehicle to transport one or two 200 lb humans is not energy-efficient... most of the energy is spent just moving the vehicle…
> A 60lb e-bike can also transport a 200 lb person whilst using far less resources (both to make the vehicle and to operate it) and space. E-bikes are great for the situations, climates, and people who can use them. E-bikes are not a substitute for the majority of people’s transportation needs. I think the young, healthy people who live in moderate climates with good weather, short commutes, and little need to haul a…
Almost never do people need to haul stuff that can’t fit in either a cargo bike or a small bike trailer.
Bikes are used in all possible climates and weather, you just need to dress for the occasion.
There are definitely uses for cars. They are a necessary option for people but in a city they really should be one of the last options.
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I've participated and watched critical mass any number of times. I've never seen cyclists target cars randomly. The only time you will be surrounded in a minivan is if you try to drive through the cyclists, or otherwise act aggressively or unsafely. Critical mass is a protest movement. If you drive your vehicle into the middle of a protest against vehicles in a way that puts people in danger, don't be surprised when…
The two critical mass's I participated in blocking traffic was limited to everyone passing through an intersection and then continuing on. Annoying for drivers no doubt but never as egregious as locking someone in specifically for an extended amount of time. The riders tend to move pretty quickly so it was at most a few minutes and never swarming vehicles to a standstill.
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Absolutely right. To situate in terms of recent events, there have been three stages of trying to delay / influence the California CPUC robotaxi expansion approval vote: 1. Tried a politician scare campaign. Failed because it was too transparent it was an attempted distraction from their terrible public safety record. 2. Tried coning and disabling the vehicles. Failed because it was too transparently astroturfed, leg…
I don't know why the other reply to this post got downvoted to hell. THe person has a point. Fully autonomous cars are cool... don't get me wrong. But electric cars and autonomous electric/gas cars are probably not the right solution to our person transport needs. using energy to move a 4000 lb vehicle to transport one or two 200 lb humans is not energy-efficient... most of the energy is spent just moving the vehicle…
Publix transportation has a place for sure, but this idea that we need to end cars is just silly. The freedom of movement is fundamental to freedom in general. Having lived through Paris transit strikes, as well as numerous major storms — the idea that cars should be replaced is madness. I remember when I lived in Jersey City during Superstorm Sandy and my wife’s due date was the day the storm arrived. The ability for us to quickly evacuate to Albany was critical. If I relied on public transportation, my wife and I would have been stranded in a blacked out city with no means to get anywhere.
If this is about “climate,” then perhaps tell China to clean up their act and when that happens, then we can talk about lowering our quality of life to prevent some hypothetical “emergency.”
I worked as a software engineering tech lead on the "Ground Truth" team at GM Cruise for a short period in 2018. During orientation, the founder (Kyle Vogt) told us all that the cars don't need to be better than a human driver, they only need to be "not worse" than a human driver. In fact, when questioned about it, he said that the sooner we could get robot cars on the streets of SF the sooner the software could impr…
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The US rate is 0.57 fatalities per 100 million passenger miles.
Americans drove 3.2 trillion miles in 2021 and 42,795 people died in traffic fatalities (both values are estimates, and likely do not include every single mile driven or fatality that occurred, depending on how you prefer to count). So humans drive average of 74 million miles before a person gets killed, and Waymo's driven somewhere above 20M miles but probably fewer than 74M. At this point, I'd expect no self-drivin…
(Although maybe passenger miles is the correct metric -- a driverless, passengerless vehicle could hypothetically plow into an overpass at a speed that would result in a fatality, if anyone were inside; since the passengers of a vehicle are a large chunk of the people who die if that vehicle has an accident, should we car how many people don't die when vehicles are empty?)
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> The city assigned a guy to go around and document every time an AV does something Want to provide a citation to back that up? > They didn't count them before and now they do. They've apparently been counting since spring of 2022; the large increase in incidents started a year later. > If some SFFD guy just stood around documenting all driver stupidity it would a significantly different report. Lovely dose of whatab…
> The example of the AV driving through yellow caution tape, hooking a Muni wire, and then continuing to drive another block before stopping is illustrative. We can maybe imagine an unlikely-but-possible scenario where a human driver might do the same thing, but that would be an outlier. Are you joking? Do you live in SF? People are constantly driving into subway tunnels. https://www.ktvu.com/news/cars-drive-in-munis…
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/queen-quay-streetcar-...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens_Quay_station
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Queens_Q...
Ok not a million signs, but there's at least 10.
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> and little need to haul anything often forget The dutch created the cargo bike for this very reason. But they have the climate and biking infrastructure to support that kind of lifestyle. We (Americans) don't, I wish we did.
The climate isn't a big deal, finland has the climate for biking too, it's mostly about having the infrastructure and maintaining it. If cold was a problem, cars wouldn't work either because they'd be unable to handle snow. However, we maintain our car infrastructure and plow the roads
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Cool, you have an affordable, tenuously waterproofed, chinese mass produced e-bike, it's your only available mode of transportation, you need to go into the office for a meeting, and it's raining. Welcome to hell. Also, not sure if you've used public transportation recently, but man, it SUCKS. Far less time efficient than a car, often crowded during the times you want to use it, and ZERO enforcement of proper etiquet…
> Also, not sure if you've used public transportation recently, but man, it SUCKS. Far less time efficient than a car, often crowded during the times you want to use it, and ZERO enforcement of proper etiquette or rules or regulations as far as riders are concerned. I've been using public transportation for 13 years and it's better than its ever been in terms of speed, reliability, and the crowds. Where have you expe…
Oh no, I sit there and play with my phone on the bus and ignore people. Guess what I'm going to go home to do from my couch. the same except except be lonely while doing it.
