FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding

Post by worik » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 10:30 PM UTC

wredue wrote: post #34

legitster wrote: post #14

> Schubauer-Berigan acknowledged during a press conference with journalists Wednesday that the studies could contain flaws that skewed the results. She said the classification should be viewed as a call to conduct more research into whether aspartame can cause cancer in humans. > “Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives in the human food supply. FDA scientists do not have safety concerns when aspartame is…

The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious. But you have to remember that the FDA is not working for YOUR best interest either. When the FDA says that something is “safe”, what it actually means is “the economic impacts of this are probably negligible in a lifetime”. So if aspartame causes cancer after your career is over, then it’s safe according to the FDA. The WHO isn’t under the same lobbying or economi…

Post by worik » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 10:40 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #7

chomp wrote: post #4

> An adult who weighs 70 kilograms, or 154 pounds, would have to drink more than nine to 14 cans of aspartame-containing soda daily to exceed the limit and potentially face health risks. Okay, but if I consume 9 to 14 cans of sugar-based soda, I don't wind up with the same cancer risk? It's a ludicrous amount of aspartame/soda to be sure, but there -is- something potentially an issue with aspartame somewhere in there…

> Okay, but if I consume 9 to 14 cans of sugar-based soda, I don't wind up with the same cancer risk? No, you will end up with type 2 diabetes. > Something's there, even if it's negligible. Then what is the point of wasting everyone’s time with publicizing it? Just last weekend, I was with a parent who would not let her kids have sugar free popsicles, but was okay with them regularly eating sugary popsicles. For some…

Post by nomel » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 10:42 PM UTC

worik wrote: post #121

wredue wrote: post #34

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The WHO does have a tendency to lean overly cautious. But you have to remember that the FDA is not working for YOUR best interest either. When the FDA says that something is “safe”, what it actually means is “the economic impacts of this are probably negligible in a lifetime”. So if aspartame causes cancer after your career is over, then it’s safe according to the FDA. The WHO isn’t under the same lobbying or economi…

> So if aspartame causes cancer after your career is over, then it’s safe according to the FDA. That is a big claim. It fits my priors. But is there any evidence for it?

Post by worik » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 10:46 PM UTC

freedomben wrote: post #55

atlex2 wrote: post #53

Diet soda and sweeteners behind them are still a scam even if they don’t “cause cancer.” They’re a scam because they still cause insulin response. Pancreas cranks out insulin after tasting the soda, and there no blood sugar to react with. My uncle drank tons of Diet Coke and got pancreatic cancer. Doesn’t mean diet soda caused his pancreatic cancer, but he definitely didn’t loose weight by drinking the stuff.

> My uncle drank tons of Diet Coke and got pancreatic cancer. Doesn’t mean diet soda caused his pancreatic cancer, but he definitely didn’t loose weight by drinking the stuff. The point for most people of Diet Coke isn't to lose weight. It's to avoid the harm caused by sugar, while still having something to drink. Diet sodas are definitely way, way better for anybody with sugar senstivities or diabetes. Plain water w…

Post by habitue » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 10:55 PM UTC

s1artibartfast wrote: post #27

habitue wrote: post #8

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Yeah, there are absolutely people who drink this much aspartame. Probably we should think of its danger level like Advil: normal sparse amounts are fine. But if you are doing it constantly you're going to have issues.

It doesn't even mean that. 14 cans doesn't cause issues, it is when the FDA thinks risk kicks in. That might still be a 1 in a million chance, after hitting the 14 can limit