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FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
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Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've worked with folks who sit at their desk and drink diet soda from those giant reusable 64oz cups, all day. When it's all zero calories, I guess I can see how you get there.
That is insane, are they peeing every hour? I feel like at that point it must affect work output.
The stuff is caffeinated, it probably helps.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#23It is "normal" that the US allows food (additives, at least) that is banned in Europe https://archive.is/N6JI1
That's inherent any time there's any disagreement in any regulation.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#24Americans will whitelist everything for their big-pharma.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#25It is "normal" that the US allows food (additives, at least) that is banned in Europe https://archive.is/N6JI1
As a counter: I would strongly recommend people read Derek Lowe's takedown of a lot of these claims: https://corante.com/snake-oil/eight-toxic-foods-a-little-che...
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#26You can believe anything you want, and cite a credible source. Peak 2023
Some questions have fuzzy, ambiguous answers that are subject to interpretation. It was that way last year too. It's not a reason to get frustrated with science. It's an ongoing process.
I don't think this is "getting frustrated with science" as much as "getting frustrated with the reporting on science".
I don't think people are arguing that doing aspartame research is pointless so much as they are annoyed at the sensationalistic approach taken to report of that research. There is a large difference between "Aspartame may cause cancer" and "Aspartame may cause cancer if you drink 14 cans of diet coke a day".
It's pointless distractions at best and downright fear-mongering at worse in the attempt of getting ad-revenue from clicks.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#27> An adult who weighs 70 kilograms, or 154 pounds, would have to drink more than nine to 14 cans of aspartame-containing soda daily to exceed the limit and potentially face health risks. Okay, but if I consume 9 to 14 cans of sugar-based soda, I don't wind up with the same cancer risk? It's a ludicrous amount of aspartame/soda to be sure, but there -is- something potentially an issue with aspartame somewhere in there…
Yeah, there are absolutely people who drink this much aspartame. Probably we should think of its danger level like Advil: normal sparse amounts are fine. But if you are doing it constantly you're going to have issues.
It doesn't even mean that. 14 cans doesn't cause issues, it is when the FDA thinks risk kicks in. That might still be a 1 in a million chance, after hitting the 14 can limit
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#28> An adult who weighs 70 kilograms, or 154 pounds, would have to drink more than nine to 14 cans of aspartame-containing soda daily to exceed the limit and potentially face health risks. Okay, but if I consume 9 to 14 cans of sugar-based soda, I don't wind up with the same cancer risk? It's a ludicrous amount of aspartame/soda to be sure, but there -is- something potentially an issue with aspartame somewhere in there…
I wonder what the time-frame for this is. If I drink 14 cans of diet soda once, have I permanently increased my odds of cancer? That seems likely. If I drink 14 cans of anything other than water or maybe coffee every day for 30 years I would expect negative health effects. It would be great if they had some sort of time-frame.
If you plan on living 200 years, I guess you'd have to restrict yourself to five cans per day to stay under your lifetime limit.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> For some reason, she thinks that a tiny bit of aspartame has a higher probability of causing her kids greater harm than a ton of refined sugar. Cancer isn't the only risk associated with aspartame.
Which are? I assume any molecule introduced to the body in excess will have a variety of effects. It just seems after decades, there seems to be nothing substantially risky about consuming any of the low calorie sweeteners in a non crazy amount. Especially since the alternative seems to be people consuming a ton of excess carbohydrates, which have near guaranteed risks.
I believe (acute) GI distress is relatively common at higher doses.
Re: FDA says aspartame is safe, disagreeing with WHO finding
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've worked with folks who sit at their desk and drink diet soda from those giant reusable 64oz cups, all day. When it's all zero calories, I guess I can see how you get there.
That is insane, are they peeing every hour? I feel like at that point it must affect work output.
time lost maybe nullified by increased focus and lack of fatigue due to the caffeine?