Counterculture now is the far right. Trad West etc are huge, and the AOC/Wine Mom/Twitter dunk set doesn't really realize.
Google Doodle Capitalism is really, really unpopular among that set, and the memes are incredible
The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#72The real counterculture right now is non-participation . In a world where virtually everything is either designed to completely waste your time or fail and not be repairable, it's a highly radical act to stop consuming like the 95%, preferring to spend time with other humans in reality doing something that isn't technological. In spite of the popular world pushing the message that you will be fulfilled living in virt…
I don't know why you needed to derail a good point with the insect conspiracy theory dog whistle tho. If me and the homies get together weekly for bible study and fried crickets does that not fit into what you're describing?
The best indicator for "is this a conspiracy theory" is "is this true, or at least plausible?" The "live in virtual reality and consume insects" is a point pushed by at least a few people, so it's not a baseless conspiracy theory. You might say they are not influential or whatever, but it's not like this was made up on the spot.
Even if it was a baseless conspiracy theory, it doesn't detract from the value of the rest of the comment.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Touche. But many here on HN literally helped build the mainstream web. Or at least gave it their best shot. Hard to get more mainstream than “i work at facebook/google/whatever”
I see what you are saying. On the other hand, a lot of the counter culture that I've seen takes a view something like "The reality is that most of us have to work for a corp 9-5 to survive. What makes you counter culture is what you do with the rest of your life."
"The reality is that most of us have to work for a corp 9-5 to survive."
I think the reality is, that you have to work 9-5 to maintain the modern, expected standard. But if you don't care about that, there are plenty of other ways.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Touche. But many here on HN literally helped build the mainstream web. Or at least gave it their best shot. Hard to get more mainstream than “i work at facebook/google/whatever”
Oh for sure. When you get old, you want more comfort(or have a family to feed) and more comfort comes with more money and more money comes with loosening up some ideals.
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Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#75can we ever stop being the product ?
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#76TL;DR: The revolution will not be televised.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#77> Search Google Images for ‘counterculture’ and it overwhelmingly returns black-and-white photos of young people all now over 60. In the pictures, it is so clear what they were countering: The Man, of course, who, with his white collar, white skin, and short hair, singlehandedly symbolized dominant cultural norms.
Counterculture was a force that went up against the establishment as much as it did cultural norms. These days, it appears that the cultural norm is to bed in bed with the so-called establishment. When you have Cardi B and Ye rallying on behalf of politicians and celebrities/musicians regurgitating the talking points of the mainstream media you know the counterculture is dead.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#78The real counterculture right now is non-participation . In a world where virtually everything is either designed to completely waste your time or fail and not be repairable, it's a highly radical act to stop consuming like the 95%, preferring to spend time with other humans in reality doing something that isn't technological. In spite of the popular world pushing the message that you will be fulfilled living in virt…
I don't know why you needed to derail a good point with the insect conspiracy theory dog whistle tho. If me and the homies get together weekly for bible study and fried crickets does that not fit into what you're describing?
The post is refusenik to the core.
I wish we had more voices who could speak to culture & onlineness & the world that had more sophistication & openness to possibility than "turn it off".
The ardently negative tend to be together in their means of disbelief & upsettedness, so it's hard hard hard in compare for more hopeful ventures to pickup real traction; belief is more specific & thus harder than disbelief, which can be blanket.
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#79Linux and FOSS software enthusiasts are todays counter culture
Re: The internet didn’t kill counterculture, it's just not on Instagram (2021)
#80In a time where tolerance and respect for minorities is slowly becoming mainstream, you could argue that the far-right has become counterculture. The far-right is VERY prevalent on both Instagram, Twitter and other social media.
Sure, but is the unspoken context here “and that makes it cool”? Because it doesn’t make it cool.