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Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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Something I've seen countless times is the initial employees complaining that the company "is not what it used to be" when it grows to a certain level and, in my experience, they refuse to adapt and leave or are fired.

Was the company/leadership simultaneously talking about how it intended to grow but retain its 'culture' or whatever though?

Why you ask? I'm not saying the employees were wrong to think/do whatever they thought/did.

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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I found this part amusing: "Charity [company founder] has a more intuitive, spontaneous style, often shines brightest in a crisis, is allergic to checklists". It looks like an almost inadvertent admission. In other words, the founder doesn't have the qualifications or characteristics that the underlings assume they need to be in a leadership position. I automatically become CEO, CTO, etc., by starting my own company,…

You’re forgetting that companies need both Visionary AND Execution focused leaders at the very top.

I’m an execution through and through guy, but I learned early on that my co-founder’s ideal traits are the opposite of mine, and that’s what you’re seeing here.

What’s being described is a classic Visionary - spontaneous, jumps around and can be distracting, yes - but crucially, is also an amazing innovator and motivator of people.

In a successful startup, you need both Visionaries and Execution people.

I recommend Rocket Fuel - https://www.amazon.com/Rocket-Fuel-Essential-Combination-Bus...

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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I'm a CTO of a venture-backed startup. My observations: - Most people in high positions are smart. I put cunning in the same category :) But there are many equally smart people who are not in high positions, because.. - They don't have the chance (either by design or by choice). - You can have a better chance by starting your own business. Nobody starts a business with the intention of getting a VP job in another com…

> - Most people in high positions are smart. I put cunning in the same category :) But there are many equally smart people who are not in high positions, because..

> - They don't have the chance (either by design or by choice).

This is an important insight.

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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I've been mostly in startups for the last 10+ years. Until recently the main thing you needed to be good at is getting more VC money. That is correlated to certain measures of success but having a ton of free money means you can patch a lot of failures over that would bankrupt most companies. Then either sell or IPO before the house of cards came down. It's been interesting watching over the last year as that strateg…

> Until recently the main thing you needed to be good at is getting more VC money It's always better to be getting money by selling to customers. It's amazing how well that works and how much less capital you need to grow.

If your goal is to make a lot of money (not just some money) then using VC money to get there is a very reasonable play. Just siphoning some money from later rounds could give you tens of millions. You don't even need to succeed after that as a business. The goal for many founders isn't to run a long term business but to make money.

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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Most startups fail. You need to be good to succeed.

I've been mostly in startups for the last 10+ years. Until recently the main thing you needed to be good at is getting more VC money. That is correlated to certain measures of success but having a ton of free money means you can patch a lot of failures over that would bankrupt most companies. Then either sell or IPO before the house of cards came down. It's been interesting watching over the last year as that strateg…

This really depends on a definition of success that includes creating massive money burning firepits. Now to be fair some of the chief firepit architects got very rich doing so.

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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Was the company/leadership simultaneously talking about how it intended to grow but retain its 'culture' or whatever though?

Why you ask? I'm not saying the employees were wrong to think/do whatever they thought/did.

I thought you were implying it's a failing of grouchy employees ('refuse to adapt') - I just think that might be sometimes hypocritical as companies love to talk about their culture etc., if you change what that is (and previously talked about it) then you should expect some negative reaction to it, and if you don't (or talk about how you're keeping it the same) then it seems unfair to criticise someone saying it's changed or not liking that.

(Personally I think I'd rather companies uncultured/not talking about it, but if they do it should make sense and be consistent with actions.)

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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Leadership matters, Apples history is a prime example of this as shown by first faltering without Steve Jobs and then becoming the most profitable company after he rejoined. Nonetheless, you're still attributing way too much to the ability of the leadership. After all, that story is so remarkable precisely because it's pretty much the only well known example of this.

Even Steve failed with Next, and had to sell it to Apple.

I like the description someone made on HN that "NeXT acquired Apple for minus 400 million".

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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This post wreaks of low self esteem. The author feels the need to prove that they are worthy of a great and powerful management position by sharing how much surface knowledge they possess about so many things. Usually, these posts are shared on LinkedIn as people desperately try to market themselves.

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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> In knowledge industries managers aren’t leaders, they are support staff. The best software managers and executives know this and do everything in their power to make it easy for the actual leaders and experts, the IC doing the work (yes including that intern you just hired) to get on with it That’s just lip service. Who goes to the annual offsite, the quarterly planning, manages or sets the budget, decides on initi…

Completely agree and in my specific company they have this concept of "Highest Performers" who get to go to an annual offsite/party for a week. Guess who only gets picked? Directors and VPs. It's almost satirical how unaware leadership is or the optics they emit.

You and I might have worked at the same company. They’d call it the Top-100 Summit or whatever, where the “best innovators” would gather to decide the direction of the product lines. Who were these “top” innovators? You already said it: Directors and VPs. Comical.

Re: On Becoming a VP of Engineering

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I found this part amusing: "Charity [company founder] has a more intuitive, spontaneous style, often shines brightest in a crisis, is allergic to checklists". It looks like an almost inadvertent admission. In other words, the founder doesn't have the qualifications or characteristics that the underlings assume they need to be in a leadership position. I automatically become CEO, CTO, etc., by starting my own company,…

You’re forgetting that companies need both Visionary AND Execution focused leaders at the very top. I’m an execution through and through guy, but I learned early on that my co-founder’s ideal traits are the opposite of mine, and that’s what you’re seeing here. What’s being described is a classic Visionary - spontaneous, jumps around and can be distracting, yes - but crucially, is also an amazing innovator and motivat…

I was founding engineer ("CTO") of a startup a couple years ago, and I completely agree. We had the CEO who had domain expertise in our market, but who had never ran a tech company and was not technically proficient. I on the other hand was technically proficient, but I also never ran a tech company.

This lack of execution expertise doomed us; we really needed a strong operations role. We made good progress on the product itself, but hit a wall when it came time to ask for money from investors.

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