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Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by 111111IIIIIII »

solardev wrote: post #26
111111IIIIIII wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would only disagree that such people are inherently bad. Rather, they are fulfilling the role that the dictates of capitalism requires of their given class. All people are inherently good, however all people are inherently social beings. Since capitalism is dominated by humans' relations to capital instead of humans' relations to eachother, the social nature of the human species is repressed, and as such people can…

I don't think people are cookie-cutter clones of each other, or blank slates at birth either. There's hereditary/genetic components to selfishness, psychopathy, etc. Not every human born will be compatible with a given societal system. Some personalities, whether by evolution or upbringing or personal development, will succeed more in some systems than others. Our current system favors sociopaths. I'd say they are, a…

> I don't think people are cookie-cutter clones of each other, or blank slates at birth either.

Who said anything even close to that?

> There's hereditary/genetic components to selfishness, psychopathy, etc. Not every human born will be compatible with a given societal system.

or that?

> Some personalities, whether by evolution or upbringing or personal development, will succeed more in some systems than others.

or that?

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

Weird times.

Netlify did so much very fast to encourage and help move a certain are of web dev into the Jamstack realm or at least promote the main tenets of it as it rapidly became a mainstream option. Now after all that, the mainstreaming/normalization, they're left where I do not know. Sadly, I don't think CEO Matt knows either, but trying to find a way, despite it being a rough road now.

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by duxup »

ycombinatornews wrote: post #29

Such weirdly worded announcement. Reflecting into public about a private company announcement but also it’s “announcement to the Netlify team”? And three bold highlights for (who?) investors? I guess the image for investors was built, what about the image for anyone considering joining Netlify at any time in future (probably not right now since they need to exercise their financial discipline). What strikes me is tha…

Trying to address investors, customers maybe, and employees at the same time publicly seems like an inevitable terrible result.

I remember when CEOs addressed those groups separately. It just made more sense.

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by achanda358 »

vira28 wrote: post #15
solardev wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wording is to reassure investors. They don't care about the employees.

How? Don’t the investors have the actual numbers?

Not everyone reads everything, a bunch of people will just follow the market.

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by thevagrant »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #32

Weird times. Netlify did so much very fast to encourage and help move a certain are of web dev into the Jamstack realm or at least promote the main tenets of it as it rapidly became a mainstream option. Now after all that, the mainstreaming/normalization, they're left where I do not know. Sadly, I don't think CEO Matt knows either, but trying to find a way, despite it being a rough road now.

I think the problem was their pricing and arbitrary limitations. Like 7 day audit log.. 7 day user metrics, up to 100 form submissions per month. That's their paid professional plan. Seems extremely hard sell when I tell customers they are limited to 100 form submissions.

It would have been better to offer a low monthly charge per website (and bundle in the features)

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by skissane »

solardev wrote: post #27
rudasn wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reads like a very narrow minded view of the world, even though it was in good spirit somehow.

Is it? Our system from the beginning was optimized for personal liberty, almost always at the cost of community. Those same values enabled and entrenched the classist society we have today, then further bolstered a completely useless and unresponsive political class. That's by design from the beginning. Oligarchy under the guise of false democracy... has it ever been any other way in this country? If not, there's no…

> Our system from the beginning was optimized for personal liberty,

Really? The US had legal chattel slavery for the first 89 years of its independent existence. And the abolition of slavery was followed not long after by the imposition of legally enforced racial segregation, which then endured for another (approximately) 90 years. Doesn’t sound at all like a “system from the beginning… optimized for personal liberty”

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by 111111IIIIIII »

skissane wrote: post #36
solardev wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Our system from the beginning was optimized for personal liberty, almost always at the cost of community. Those same values enabled and entrenched the classist society we have today, then further bolstered a completely useless and unresponsive political class. That's by design from the beginning. Oligarchy under the guise of false democracy... has it ever been any other way in this country? If not, there's no…

> Our system from the beginning was optimized for personal liberty, Really? The US had legal chattel slavery for the first 89 years of its independent existence. And the abolition of slavery was followed not long after by the imposition of legally enforced racial segregation, which then endured for another (approximately) 90 years. Doesn’t sound at all like a “system from the beginning… optimized for personal liberty…

They didn't say everybody's personal liberty. Of course working people are still all subject to exploitation hand over fist. Regardless, your comment is nothing but a pointless deviation.

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by EricRiese »

solardev wrote: post #8
andrewstuart wrote: post #5

Wow this seems really poorly worded. On one hand, the CEO is upbeat about the future and yaks on about strategy and in the same breath says "you're fired". Seems very insensitive. Laying people off isn't the time for a pep talk and ra ra rally on the strategy. IMO if you have to lay people off then the focus should be the people being laid off, nothing else. "Deeply sorry, we did our best to avoid this and we don't s…

The wording is to reassure investors. They don't care about the employees.

Or it's for the HFT bots that run the press releases through sentiment analysis and make trades accordingly.

Re: CEO Announcement to the Netlify Team

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Post by rebeccaskinner »

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #19
solardev wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then again, I can think of nothing more American than good people suffering under the poor decisions of bad people. That's like our entire history.

I would only disagree that such people are inherently bad. Rather, they are fulfilling the role that the dictates of capitalism requires of their given class. All people are inherently good, however all people are inherently social beings. Since capitalism is dominated by humans' relations to capital instead of humans' relations to eachother, the social nature of the human species is repressed, and as such people can…

> All people are inherently good

A strong statement. I think it's more likely that most people are inherently ignorant clannish jerks who care to some degree about the fifty or so people they interact with often enough to see as real humans, and largely fail to give much moral consideration one way or another to everyone else except in ways that signal the virtues that gain them social status inside of their close circle. Some people are better or worse than that, and a few people are on the extremes at either end.

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