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Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by pilsetnieks »

gr366 wrote: post #33
vijaydev wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Your Basecamp Classic URL (which looks like yoursubdomain.basecamphq.com) stays the same. New Basecamp accounts are hosted on the basecamp.com domain. New Basecamp accounts don't have subdomains, so all accounts are at basecamp.com." From: http://basecamp.com/transition

It looks like they're gradually simplifying. They originally launched with a range of domains you could choose from: projectpath.com, clientsection.com, grouphub.com, etc. with a subdomain. Then it went to subdomains on basecamphq.com, and now just basecamp.com with no subdomains.

I remember yourname.seework.com from a previous job. As a result, all of the project managers called it Seework, not Basecamp.

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by jonursenbach »

psylence519 wrote: post #41
thehodge wrote: post #9

Looks like they have got rid of the free plan... (I'm not saying this as a negative thing, it's going to be really interesting to see the response to this, I know there was a blog post a while ago saying there hardly anyone on the free account upgraded) I'm using a free basecamp account but we only have one project and $20/$25 is just a little much for that a micro plan at $10 would be awesome :) )

Some assumptions, to be sure, but you say "we only have one project", so that implies multiple people, so if you are employed by this work you must be pulling in several thousand dollars per month. $20/mo for a product you need to (or at least want to) use to accomplish this work and earn money is an absolute pittance.

Just because they might have a team working in a free version of Basecamp doesn't mean that they're pulling in money.

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by tchock23 »

Am I the only one here who thinks they've actually done a good job with this transition? I've been a long-time (paying) user of Basecamp and the entire 37 Signals suite, and I think Basecamp needed to be revamped long ago.

I actually like that they've created a brand new experience/product, and have given everyone ample time (90 days) to evaluate whether or not they like it. I also thought the FAQ was clear, and the transition process was well explained.

As for the loss of time tracking that a few people have complained about... If you're really that serious about time tracking, you shouldn't be using the extremely limited time tracking capabilities of Basecamp Classic anyway. We use Harvest and integrate it with our Basecamp account, and it's a perfect setup for us. I always thought time tracking seemed like a "nice to have" feature of Classic.

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

#94

Post by palish »

dhh wrote: post #83
atourgates wrote: post #53

I'm a bit behind the curve here - but now that I'm caught up, I'm concerned. When I saw the title of this article, I immediately logged into my Basecamp. Hmm, it looked the same. So I went and found their upgrade instructions. Then I learned that it's not a straight 1:1 upgrade, it's a different product. And they've dropped support for some quite important features, like, time-tracking. My work runs on Basecamp. We c…

We're launching with a great set of features we could do in a reasonable amount of time. If we had tried to reimplement every single Basecamp Classic feature in Basecamp Next before we launched, it would have taken a very long time. Basecamp Classic originally launched without even file uploads! We'll be busy bees making Basecamp Next fill in gaps all over the place in the coming months. Looking into how we can solve…

Why did you do a full rewrite?

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by pbreit »

flyosity wrote: post #31
dclaysmith wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. $20/mo is definitely going to be too expensive for a ton of potential customers. I guess it's a luxury that 37Signals can not only afford, but will maximize their profit and I would assume they have some good historical data to back up the decision. I do think that there is a magic $5-9/mo range that individuals will pay without thinking too much. Above that amount, they start equating a subscription with a…

I totally disagree, $20/mo for a service like Basecamp is not expensive. I pay $20-50/mo per month for a whole host of services (hosting, backup storage, payment processing, etc.) and don't really think twice about them since they're business expenses. FYI: I'm an individual who has a full-time job but does projects/apps at night with a separate LLC.

I totally disagree. Certainly hosting costs that much, backup usual not and payment processing never. When compared to services with a free tier like ZenDesk, Yammer, Twilio, Stripe, DropBox, BiBucket and Trello, I don't think your comment holds water at all.

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by stdbrouw »

So, no API yet. The neat thing about client-side apps is that they force you to craft a great API from the get-go, because you'll be using it extensively in your own application. DHH was talking earlier [1] about how client-side MVC isn't a great developer experience and consequently why they avoided it for Basecamp Next, and I sympathize with that decision, but I wonder how great of a developer experience it is to have to develop a server-side app with various AJAX-related endpoints and then having to go back and develop a full-fledged API... instead of doing just the latter.

[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3603680

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by [deleted] »

palish wrote: post #94
dhh wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're launching with a great set of features we could do in a reasonable amount of time. If we had tried to reimplement every single Basecamp Classic feature in Basecamp Next before we launched, it would have taken a very long time. Basecamp Classic originally launched without even file uploads! We'll be busy bees making Basecamp Next fill in gaps all over the place in the coming months. Looking into how we can solve…

Why did you do a full rewrite?

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Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by atourgates »

dhh wrote: post #83
atourgates wrote: post #53

I'm a bit behind the curve here - but now that I'm caught up, I'm concerned. When I saw the title of this article, I immediately logged into my Basecamp. Hmm, it looked the same. So I went and found their upgrade instructions. Then I learned that it's not a straight 1:1 upgrade, it's a different product. And they've dropped support for some quite important features, like, time-tracking. My work runs on Basecamp. We c…

We're launching with a great set of features we could do in a reasonable amount of time. If we had tried to reimplement every single Basecamp Classic feature in Basecamp Next before we launched, it would have taken a very long time. Basecamp Classic originally launched without even file uploads! We'll be busy bees making Basecamp Next fill in gaps all over the place in the coming months. Looking into how we can solve…

That's great to hear - but why does it take a rant on HN to communicate that integrating Time Tracking with Basecamp Next is a high priority?

If you're committing to adding Time-Tracking in the future, publicize it, so users like me will be confident that it's worth sticking with Basecamp.

Until that happens, you're telling us, "Sorry, you're not our target user base."

Re: The all-new Basecamp is live

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Post by ch0wn »

palish wrote: post #94
dhh wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're launching with a great set of features we could do in a reasonable amount of time. If we had tried to reimplement every single Basecamp Classic feature in Basecamp Next before we launched, it would have taken a very long time. Basecamp Classic originally launched without even file uploads! We'll be busy bees making Basecamp Next fill in gaps all over the place in the coming months. Looking into how we can solve…

Why did you do a full rewrite?

It's pretty much all explained in this blog post:

http://37signals.com/svn/posts/3112-how-basecamp-next-got-to...

Quote: "[...] one of the key arguments for a rewrite was that we wanted a dramatic leap forward in speed — one that wouldn’t be possible through mere evolution."

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