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FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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> The agency says it's looking into whether the AI tool has harmed people by generating incorrect information about them

Havent heard this complaint before. And I wouldn’t really call this harmful to consumers. If anything its harmful to the subject, but consumers in general. But even so it doesnt meet the definition of libel. How harmful is it really?

Of all the complaints against OpenAI, absolutely none of them seem to be what I think really matters. And that is OpenAI tweaking it to be politically correct and geared to wherever they fall on the overton window. Its a tool. It should be sharp. And we should expect more than of its users leat we want dumber ones.

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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> The agency says it's looking into whether the AI tool has harmed people by generating incorrect information about them Havent heard this complaint before. And I wouldn’t really call this harmful to consumers. If anything its harmful to the subject, but consumers in general. But even so it doesnt meet the definition of libel. How harmful is it really? Of all the complaints against OpenAI, absolutely none of them see…

> How harmful is it really?

You seem to assume it's negative information about people. If it decides to say that some quack hocking raw almonds as cancer cures is FDA approved it's extremely harmful.

Hopefully it's not that bad, but there's clearly a large inbetween here and I wouldn't be surprised if it's over the line.

That's before you even get into defamation cases.

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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> The agency says it's looking into whether the AI tool has harmed people by generating incorrect information about them Havent heard this complaint before. And I wouldn’t really call this harmful to consumers. If anything its harmful to the subject, but consumers in general. But even so it doesnt meet the definition of libel. How harmful is it really? Of all the complaints against OpenAI, absolutely none of them see…

It could absolutely cause real harm to any one person or group at a time. There was a recent case where it accused a professor of sexual harassment, seemingly out of nowhere. Imagine it spreading on Twitter and getting mobbed, doxxed, etc. Or a potential employer seeing it and silently rejecting your employment.

Excuse the link, the big papers have awful popovers, this one seemed acceptable...

https://decrypt.co/125712/chatgpt-wrongly-accuses-law-profes...

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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> The agency says it's looking into whether the AI tool has harmed people by generating incorrect information about them Havent heard this complaint before. And I wouldn’t really call this harmful to consumers. If anything its harmful to the subject, but consumers in general. But even so it doesnt meet the definition of libel. How harmful is it really? Of all the complaints against OpenAI, absolutely none of them see…

I can only give you an antidote of its dangers in a different category.

My significant other, an otherwise very intelligent women, will ask ChatGPT health questions. She knows it might be wrong, but does it anyways to debug her health. I try to point out that even getting suggested a bad diagnosis is very dangerous. The advice it gives has way less nuanced than say the healthMD which has it owns flaws. And unlike coding questions, you can't assume health advice is right until you prove it wrong.

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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post #4

> The agency says it's looking into whether the AI tool has harmed people by generating incorrect information about them Havent heard this complaint before. And I wouldn’t really call this harmful to consumers. If anything its harmful to the subject, but consumers in general. But even so it doesnt meet the definition of libel. How harmful is it really? Of all the complaints against OpenAI, absolutely none of them see…

It could absolutely cause real harm to any one person or group at a time. There was a recent case where it accused a professor of sexual harassment, seemingly out of nowhere. Imagine it spreading on Twitter and getting mobbed, doxxed, etc. Or a potential employer seeing it and silently rejecting your employment. Excuse the link, the big papers have awful popovers, this one seemed acceptable... https://decrypt.co/1257…

We as a population need to be exposed to misinformation to build up immunity against it. The alternative is for those in power to "decide" for us what is true, which is even worse.

I don't trust AI and probably never will. I consider ChatGPT to be merely a PC version of 4chan's infamous /b/ board, which carries the disclaimer "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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Sam Altman himself sat in front of the top levels of government and freaked them out by telling them his company was putting in place the groundwork to possibly end humanity. A really strange thing to do, I remain puzzled as to why any CEO would stir up the government like this.

Having panicked regulators with science fiction, I hope he's not surprised when they take action.

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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Sam Altman himself sat in front of the top levels of government and freaked them out by telling them his company was putting in place the groundwork to possibly end humanity. A really strange thing to do, I remain puzzled as to why any CEO would stir up the government like this. Having panicked regulators with science fiction, I hope he's not surprised when they take action.

That is completely unrelated to the FTC complaint.

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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It could absolutely cause real harm to any one person or group at a time. There was a recent case where it accused a professor of sexual harassment, seemingly out of nowhere. Imagine it spreading on Twitter and getting mobbed, doxxed, etc. Or a potential employer seeing it and silently rejecting your employment. Excuse the link, the big papers have awful popovers, this one seemed acceptable... https://decrypt.co/1257…

We as a population need to be exposed to misinformation to build up immunity against it. The alternative is for those in power to "decide" for us what is true, which is even worse. I don't trust AI and probably never will. I consider ChatGPT to be merely a PC version of 4chan's infamous /b/ board, which carries the disclaimer "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a…

> We as a population need to be exposed to misinformation to build up immunity against it.

We tried this in the 1930s in Europe and it didn’t seem to go very well. See also it’s lasting legacy in the current Italian prime minister, Marine Le Pen’s popularity in France, and AfD’s electoral successes in Germany.

Re: FTC investigating ChatGPT over potential consumer harm

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Sam Altman himself sat in front of the top levels of government and freaked them out by telling them his company was putting in place the groundwork to possibly end humanity. A really strange thing to do, I remain puzzled as to why any CEO would stir up the government like this. Having panicked regulators with science fiction, I hope he's not surprised when they take action.

That is completely unrelated to the FTC complaint.

Government is a many headed hydra.

You can't poke a stick at one head and think the others won't bite you.

Altman effectively said to every level of government "OpenAI is extremely dangerous, you'd better look out for us".

All the wisdom of Bilbo Baggins reaching into the trolls pocket.

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