Actors union will join writers on strike, shutting down Hollywood

Post by monkeyodeath » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 10:01 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #34

monkeyodeath wrote: post #19

The business philosophy of "maximize shareholder value above all else" is going to eviscerate our society until there's nothing of quality left. Hollywood has always been a dirty and money-focused business, but it seems like the latest crop of execs are hellbent on entirely divorcing the creative enterprise from its human elements. Now studios are just exotic financial instruments that seek to turn "content" into sto…

Everything measured and optimised for shallow goals goes into the gutter. As the analytics overtook decision making, the quality of everything declined sharply. IMHO, it's happening because we the humans optimize for proxy metrics which once were good as a proxy to the real thing but with the computer age they turned into shallow goals that end up destroying the real thing as the optimisation became too robust. Remov…

Post by roboror » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 10:01 PM UTC

bsimpson wrote: post #53

dluan wrote: post #42

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The visual effects people and animators in Hollywood should absolutely be organizing for one, because their work is the soonest to be blown up with AI stuff. There's already a ton of stuff for small productivity improvements that reduce editing or grading tasks that used to take days into minutes.

There's the Animation Guild for collective bargaining, and ASIFA (which is like the Academy of cartoons). https://animationguild.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASIFA-Hollywood

Post by User23 » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 10:01 PM UTC

nightski wrote: post #66

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I have been doing that for a long time not because of the strike, but because 90% of the content is garbage, and the few shows that have found interesting they cancel after 1 season.... I think the situation with the Witcher will be the last straw with me and Netflix.. I am probably one of the few people that still have Prime because of the shipping but as they keep increasing costs to add a bunch of things I have no…

The Witcher wasn't really Netflix's fault though? I thought Cavill was lured by the Amazon deal to do Warhammer. Gotta love a company like Amazon producing shows and selling toilet paper all in one shop.

Post by geodel » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 10:03 PM UTC

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This is where the broadcasters and streamers opt for more unscripted TV and foreign dubbed content.

Consumers are savvier than ever about that stuff. People already demonstrate a strong willingness to hop on and off subscriptions for different services based on specific shows they want to watch. I can imagine a ton of people canceling their subscriptions if all the providers put out is that crap “filler content.”

Post by ohgodplsno » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 10:04 PM UTC

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Not being the worst tactic used by companies to break strikes doesn't make it good or even OK . Nor should it lessen the condemnation faced by these companies. EDIT: To be clear, I expect a company's executive team in the 21st century to act ethically and with even the smallest bit of compassion for their coworkers. I do not expect them to act like some entitled plantation owner in the late 19th century. And if that'…

This not some dirty tactic, it is specifically how all breakdowns in employer/union negotiations go. Union withdraws their labour until their demands are met, employer doesn't agree until their demands are met. As time goes on, both lose money, both parties are betting the other party will compromise in a beneficial way before their side does. If you don't approve of this, you don't approve of unionization. Because t…