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Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by olddustytrail »

frankohn wrote: post #56

Just tried out Google Bard, now available in Europe, and I have to say, my first experience was rather disconcerting. I threw at it a relatively obscure question about an event in the third book of A Song of Ice and Fire series, involving characters Arya Stark and Sandor Clegane. To my surprise, Google Bard's response, while confident, was a bizarre mix of actual characters and situations from the book series, but th…

Good point. If I ever want a random summary of an event in a fantasy book I've already read, I'll be sure to stick to ChatGPT.

On a completely unrelated point, why are people's tests of LLMs clearly designed to make me think that people are dumber? Are the LLMs suggesting these questions as part of their plot?

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Post by ori_b »

Aperocky wrote: post #144
nikitoci wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What are the even prime factors of 15346773347 Bard: The prime factorization of 15346773347 is 2 * 3 * 11 * 101 * 1237 * 1289. The even prime factors are 2 and 12. Not only the factorization is completely wrong but it also claims that 12 is a prime number.

I wouldn't expect anything less from a model trained on human generated data. In fact, I would guess more humans to answer this way to a misleading question then ones who wouldn't.

> In fact, I would guess more humans to answer this way to a misleading question then ones who wouldn't.

I would expect most humans to shrug and say "dunno".

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by karim79 »

I just ran a prompt which I did weeks ago (with success) using chatGPT4. BTW it's the first time I've been able to access this from Germany, and my first prompt.

> How do I compile ImageMagick 7 with avif support on ubuntu?

I'm not programmed to assist with that.

I can't find it anywhere, but have they not yet enabled any codeassist features outside the US yet?

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by jsnell »

barbazoo wrote: post #143
canadiantim wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Canadian I am glad that Google is taking this stand. If Canada succeeds in its current implementation of Bill C-18 it will absolutely destroy the revenue for media organizations in Canada rapidly accelerating the decline in journalism here. Not to mention the morales of taxing the free flow of information on the internet. So as a Canadian, THANK YOU GOOGLE!

> If Canada succeeds in its current implementation of Bill C-18 it will absolutely destroy the revenue for media organizations in Canada Can you walk me through what you think will happen please?

Any company that's designated as being in scope of the link tax will choose to stop linking to Canadian news media but will continue linking to foreign media. Links from search engines and social media currently produce for billions of page views for Canadian news publishers. Some of those page views will be replaced by people visiting the news site directly. Some won't, as people consume less news or substitute foreign media for Canadian. The loss of those page views will mean a loss of ad impressions thus and ad revenue.

In addition any deals these tech companies have already voluntarily made with Canadian news media will be terminated, since the companies have to choose all or nothing. They can't do anything at all with news content from any Canadian news publisher, unless they're willing to pay every news publisher. So there's no point in keeping those ongoing content deals active.

I don't know if that'd qualify as "absolutely destruction", but it seems hard to believe there wouldn't be a negative impact.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by dudeinhawaii »

oadster wrote: post #2

My ChatGPT and Bard use has pretty much flatlined. Has anyone else has a similar experience?

My experience lately has been that I'll Google something, get NOTHING useful or very generic/popular but unrelated results. Then I'll try Bing Search and it's marginally better but still bad. Then I'll finally just ask ChatGPT and get the answer straight off and I'll wonder why I didn't start with ChatGPT. With the BingAI one, the sources are usually demarcated so I can also verify the sources or reasoning but.. I don't use that one often.

This is for non current-events type searches. I'd probably have Bing AI in my toolset if that was more of the type of thing I was typically searching for.

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Post by ipaddr »

llm_nerd wrote: post #133
ipaddr wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which means uncertain about using data collected or uncertain about types of data collected. Oil companies are one of the most taxed industries. Google is not an oil company either. These country restrictions came out months before the bill. They are completely unrelated.

>Oil companies are one of the most taxed industries Norway benefits 10-fold more from their oil reserves than Canada does. Oil companies have been spectacularly profitable exploiting Canada, yet still there are "woe are the oil company" sorts that are easily leveraged. I hardly want to talk about oil companies, but it's a perfect example of where Canada being a small country that is easily exploited by mega multinati…

Benefits more in what way? The government receives more taxes? Oil companies grow in value and society can purchase oil companies shares and profit of, which is taxed and goes back to the government? Private companies create jobs and employee income is taxed heavy which goes to the government.

The oil industry is heavily taxed now.

Things are more complex then you understand. Running around full of panic because facebook or google might not carry Canadian corporate news connecting it to other decisions is foolish. Buy a subscription if you truly care most are better off with less of that kind of news.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by theonlybutlet »

LeonardoTolstoy wrote: post #134

I find the image results to be rather impressive. Or to be more precise, I feel like Bard is much much closer to changing "search" than chatGPT or Bing given the results I'm looking at. To give an example. I gave it an image of a television listing from some time in 1996. It was for a television film fashioned from a two part episode of The Commish called Father Image. It correctly got all the information from the im…

I've found the image feature is hallucinating to a large extent. It feels impressive but it's an illusion. Very close as it identifies the broader object and discusses things related to that object but hallucinates if you actually ask it anything else more specific. Thats something google lens could do.

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Post by slowmovintarget »

munificent wrote: post #116
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Expect bugs but not regression of core product offerings. Google's web search has gotten worse over the years. Unless of course we want to say that their only truly core product is ads, in which case I'm skeptical but willing to concede that you may be right.

> Google's web search has gotten worse over the years. People keep pointing that out, but few want to acknowledge that the web has gotten worse over the years. When was the last time you stumbled onto a web page written by a caring human author to accurately explain some part of the world just because they're into it? Those kinds of pages used to be all over the web. If you did a search for some random topic, you'd f…

Google's web search got worse and the internet got worse trying to stay atop it's pay-to-play adjustments.

Google's web search is less useful today because it puts fingers on the scale of the algorithm, not because the web is worse.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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Post by jpambrun »

canadiantim wrote: post #37
llm_nerd wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is trying to "punish" Canada for bill C-18 [1]. It is absolutely gross, bully-like corporate behaviour and ultimately should earn Google much more scrutiny. For those who don't know, bill C-18 required Google and others to pay Canadian news orgs if they scrape and present their content. This is exactly the battle Australia had with Google (Australia won, btw), but now that Canada has moved forward Google has d…

As a Canadian I am glad that Google is taking this stand. If Canada succeeds in its current implementation of Bill C-18 it will absolutely destroy the revenue for media organizations in Canada rapidly accelerating the decline in journalism here. Not to mention the morales of taxing the free flow of information on the internet. So as a Canadian, THANK YOU GOOGLE!

Canada is a sovereign country. It can't really accept such a behavior from a corporation. I know a lot about C-18, but it is law now. Google will have to comply or the government will likely use it's force to make them.
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