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Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by t43562 »

dizhn wrote: post #100
t43562 wrote: post #80

I spent quite a lot of time in Istanbul - mostly in suburbs far from the tourist bits. I have certainly not seen it all - probably a more tourist with more dedication has seen more in less time. I do like living there. It is always nice to have a strong currency in a place with a more variable one so it's not really fair but it has a kind of living which is a balance to my own. As someone said already, kids are treat…

A traditional simit would not be eaten with something inside either. That was like the breakfast of commuters for many many years. Only in the 90s the vendors starting offering triangle shaped melted cheese products. The Simit Sarayı like places are a very recent invention. By the way, I think the reason pastane simit's aren't as good is that, simit really needs to be made in a traditional stone oven and I belive the…

Pekmez! Yes. I have always wanted to make Simit and since there are so many Turks in the UK it's easy to get pekmez but the problem is as you say the oven. Probably need a pizza oven to get the right kind of heat.

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by goodbyesf »

dang wrote: post #106
goodbyesf wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Istanbul is in the same league with London, Paris, Rome London and Paris do not belong on that list. Rome is on another level. Paris and London are a few levels below somewhere. Heck I'd say istanbul is a level above rome since the turks added onto constantinople and added a richness and extra layer that rome never got. Not to mention that the eastern roman empire was far more impressive that than the western roman…

Hey, it looks like your account has been taking HN into flamewars everywhere it shows up, like a pyromaniacal Johnny Appleseed* - can you please not do that? It should be obvious from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html why that's not ok here. * Believe it or not, I mean this affectionately - I've personally been enjoying your posts, I love a good moon landing hoax, and I don't think contrarianism is nec…

> I love a good moon landing hoax

Swing and a miss. Though I don't look down on the 'moon landing hoax' folks as many unfairly do, I actually believe the other extreme - we've been sending people to the moon nonstop since the 70s. Seems the likeliest of the 3 main scenarios. But ultimately, I'm was interested in a discussion as it one of the most fascinating topics of the modern era. Hope you aren't too disappointed.

Also, as you already know, I don't start flamebaits, I just participate in them. You should skip over me and climb up the comment tree to the source. Not telling you how to do your job but I believe that would be the most fruitful course of action. What do you think? Besides, I only post a comment or two for the edification of future readers. My intention certainly isn't to set the site on fire.

I'm glad you enjoy some of my comments and I hope you don't see me as the guy throwing molotovs, but the one pointing and shouting 'look! this guy is throwing molotov cocktails over there!'. A flamewar alarm bell if you will.

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by dizhn »

t43562 wrote: post #111
dizhn wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A traditional simit would not be eaten with something inside either. That was like the breakfast of commuters for many many years. Only in the 90s the vendors starting offering triangle shaped melted cheese products. The Simit Sarayı like places are a very recent invention. By the way, I think the reason pastane simit's aren't as good is that, simit really needs to be made in a traditional stone oven and I belive the…

Pekmez! Yes. I have always wanted to make Simit and since there are so many Turks in the UK it's easy to get pekmez but the problem is as you say the oven. Probably need a pizza oven to get the right kind of heat.

If you can get pekmez you can get tahin too. You probably know that they go very well together when mixed. Especially if you can find the darker double roasted variety.

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by ycombinete »

dizhn wrote: post #95
ycombinete wrote: post #64

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It’s truly beautiful. After many visits though, the rundown nature of the history started to distress me. See the Hagia Sophia, which appears to have been left to dilapidate since it was turned into a mosque all those centuries ago. A conversion process which appears to have amounted to plastering over the stunning mosaics, and drilling some Arabic script plaques into the walls. Some of which were exposed while it wa…

> Topkapi and Dolmabace palaces are largely empty stone buildings with the trees in the yards being the most fascinating things. Either you were not actually allowed to go in or things have changed a lot since the last time I visited those places. Dolmabahçe is real "palace" palace. There are a lot of rooms with really extravagant furnishings, carpets, mirrors etc as well as lots of original art on the walls. Topkapı…

Thank you for your reply. I went there on days when they were closed to the public, so they were totally empty of people who weren't staff. Perhaps I missed the best parts of them by not having a guide to conveyor belt me along! It's a hazard of being there for work, and only having an hour or so to freely wander about; a benefit though, is that we were allowed into some of the rooms and areas that are closed to the public. In retrospect, I probably should have reserved my opinion on the palaces. Next time I'm there I'll get a map and look around more methodically.

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by dang »

goodbyesf wrote: post #112
dang wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, it looks like your account has been taking HN into flamewars everywhere it shows up, like a pyromaniacal Johnny Appleseed* - can you please not do that? It should be obvious from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html why that's not ok here. * Believe it or not, I mean this affectionately - I've personally been enjoying your posts, I love a good moon landing hoax, and I don't think contrarianism is nec…

> I love a good moon landing hoax Swing and a miss. Though I don't look down on the 'moon landing hoax' folks as many unfairly do, I actually believe the other extreme - we've been sending people to the moon nonstop since the 70s. Seems the likeliest of the 3 main scenarios. But ultimately, I'm was interested in a discussion as it one of the most fascinating topics of the modern era. Hope you aren't too disappointed.…

Actually I think you've been starting a large number of them—or at least significantly worsening.

"Start" is rather a dubious concept to begin with, as everyone always feels like the other person started it and did worse. This is one of the most reliable phenomena on HN (and no doubt with internet forums in general) - you can set your clock by it.

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by t43562 »

dizhn wrote: post #113
t43562 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pekmez! Yes. I have always wanted to make Simit and since there are so many Turks in the UK it's easy to get pekmez but the problem is as you say the oven. Probably need a pizza oven to get the right kind of heat.

If you can get pekmez you can get tahin too. You probably know that they go very well together when mixed. Especially if you can find the darker double roasted variety.

I don't know why but I haven't got used to Tahin completely. Sometimes I eat it in some food and I think it's really great but I probably wouldn't eat it on it's own if I could get peanut butter instead :-)

There's a dessert I've had at Kofteci Yusuf which is covered in Tahin which is amazing. I think it's Ekmek Kadayıfı. That's one place where I am totally converted to tahin. A cup of good Turk Khave with that is great. :-)

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by retinaros »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #38
fsniper wrote: post #16

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In Istanbul you can possibly find best examples of many if not all of international cousines. It is a city for the all types of foodies.

Maybe I'm spoiled coming from California, especially LA, but this is simply not true. You'll find phenomenal, quite possibly best, examples of Turkish (obviously) and a variety of middle eastern fare, and you'll find some stand-out good examples of various European cuisines. There are options for American food, but none I would even classify as "good". There is a notable shortage of Asian cuisine, and what they have…

im asian and ive been to LA it’s definitely an americanized version of asian food. chinese is mostly greasy in la and koreans are good but far from what u get in top restaurants in seoul or busan. i had very good mexican food in the us but was am not mexican so who knows

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by goodbyesf »

dang wrote: post #115
goodbyesf wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love a good moon landing hoax Swing and a miss. Though I don't look down on the 'moon landing hoax' folks as many unfairly do, I actually believe the other extreme - we've been sending people to the moon nonstop since the 70s. Seems the likeliest of the 3 main scenarios. But ultimately, I'm was interested in a discussion as it one of the most fascinating topics of the modern era. Hope you aren't too disappointed.…

Actually I think you've been starting a large number of them—or at least significantly worsening. "Start" is rather a dubious concept to begin with, as everyone always feels like the other person started it and did worse. This is one of the most reliable phenomena on HN (and no doubt with internet forums in general) - you can set your clock by it.

> Actually I think you've been starting a large number of them—or at least significantly worsening.

I can't think of any I started. Even this thread wasn't started by me. And my response wasn't that flamebaity. I was simply giving my honest opinion to actual flamebait.

> "Start" is rather a dubious concept to begin with, as everyone always feels like the other person started it.

I suppose. But in most cases, you can just climb the comment tree to find the root.

Also, I see tons of flamebait here. I ignore most of them. For example, this guy loves to flamebait.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36722869

Yet you haven't censured him. It's only when I respond and bring the flamebait to light, that you would recognize it. Maybe it's time for comments to have a report link where we can report flamebait? Or is flamebait allowed as long as no one takes the bait?

Re: Istanbul's blue tile paradise

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Post by dang »

goodbyesf wrote: post #119
dang wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I think you've been starting a large number of them—or at least significantly worsening. "Start" is rather a dubious concept to begin with, as everyone always feels like the other person started it and did worse. This is one of the most reliable phenomena on HN (and no doubt with internet forums in general) - you can set your clock by it.

> Actually I think you've been starting a large number of them—or at least significantly worsening. I can't think of any I started. Even this thread wasn't started by me. And my response wasn't that flamebaity. I was simply giving my honest opinion to actual flamebait. > "Start" is rather a dubious concept to begin with, as everyone always feels like the other person started it. I suppose. But in most cases, you can…

The simple reason is that we don't see everything that gets posted here. Actually we barely see 1% of what gets posted here. So if you see a post that ought to have been moderated but hasn't been, the likeliest explanation is that we didn't see it. You can help by flagging it or emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com.

Other people breaking the rules doesn't make it ok for you to break them, though. That should go without saying.

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