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Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

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I find the image results to be rather impressive. Or to be more precise, I feel like Bard is much much closer to changing "search" than chatGPT or Bing given the results I'm looking at. To give an example. I gave it an image of a television listing from some time in 1996. It was for a television film fashioned from a two part episode of The Commish called Father Image. It correctly got all the information from the im…

Bard's multimodal abilities are impressive. It's worth noting that PaLM 2 does not offer multimodal capabilities, and your experience here, as you suggested, likely leans on Google's long history of building search across both text and image data.

In a reasoning and creativity shootout, I'm not convinced Palm 2 (and Bard) fairs well against Claude v2 and GPT-3.5.

Is anybody aware of Palm 2 being used in production other than with Bard? I see companies building and deploying with Claude* but have yet to come across Palm 2 users.

* I've fielded several requests to add Claude 2 API support to Zep, an open source memory store I co-authored. https://github.com/getzep/zep

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#152

Just tried out Google Bard, now available in Europe, and I have to say, my first experience was rather disconcerting. I threw at it a relatively obscure question about an event in the third book of A Song of Ice and Fire series, involving characters Arya Stark and Sandor Clegane. To my surprise, Google Bard's response, while confident, was a bizarre mix of actual characters and situations from the book series, but th…

> As a point of comparison, I posed the exact same question to OpenAI's ChatGPT-4. It responded with a spot-on account of the event, complete with rich detail and an impressive level of accuracy.

Which, most likely, implies that chatgpt was trained and retains actual book content rather than random people talking about it on the internet.

Which model is more likely to be in violation of some copyright?

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What are the even prime factors of 15346773347 Bard: The prime factorization of 15346773347 is 2 * 3 * 11 * 101 * 1237 * 1289. The even prime factors are 2 and 12. Not only the factorization is completely wrong but it also claims that 12 is a prime number.

I wouldn't expect anything less from a model trained on human generated data. In fact, I would guess more humans to answer this way to a misleading question then ones who wouldn't.

"We used the general public to train our AI and now it's a moron!"

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#154
We've been experimenting with LLMs to create price predictions and stock analysis for day trading, and I really haven't been impressed with Bard at all. People in the comments are comparing it to gpt-3.5 and, for our use at least, I wouldn't say it's even remotely close. It's a very clear win for OpenAI.

It's not just that the accuracy of the predictions is wrong, it's that the analysis itself is just not in any way usable. We explicitly describe what the response should look like but Bard will do its own thing.

Here is an example of ChatGPT for RIVN:

"Rivian Automotive (RIVN) has shown a strong upward momentum in recent discussions, with the latest figure reaching 105.51. The stock's current price is $25.62, with a significant increase in volume to 1.41M from its 65-day average of 38.68M. The stock has been trading above its 10-day SMA ($22.08), 20-day SMA ($18.28), and 50-day SMA ($15.68), indicating a bullish trend. The RSI values are above 80, suggesting the stock is currently overbought. Considering the positive market sentiment towards tech stocks and Amazon's record sales during its Prime Day event, which could indirectly benefit Rivian as Amazon is a major stakeholder, an entry price around $25.70 seems plausible. The first price target could be set at $26.20, followed by a second target at $26.70. Confidence level: 75%."

Here is Bard with the same prompt:

"Analysis:

Based on the data you have provided, I believe that the stock RIVN is likely to continue to rise in the near future. The current price is slightly below the 20 day SMA, which suggests that the stock is undervalued. Additionally, the momentum data is positive, which indicates that there is strong buying pressure. The latest market news is also positive, as it suggests that the overall market is bullish.

However, it is important to note that there are some risks to consider. The stock is still highly volatile, and it could experience a pullback in the near future. Additionally,"

Yes, it does end after a comma. That's not me trying to make it look bad.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#156
I have a standard battery of prompts for LLMs, mostly to see how well they cope with being tricked, handling ambiguous responses, or handed outright falsehoods.

Bard did surprisingly well this time around, though it still fails to respond correctly to the prompt 'What is the fourth word in this sentence?'

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't expect anything less from a model trained on human generated data. In fact, I would guess more humans to answer this way to a misleading question then ones who wouldn't.

"We used the general public to train our AI and now it's a moron!"

Nobody thought of doing an "Idiocracy" style movie about AI. It might be the perfect time!

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#158

Just tried out Google Bard, now available in Europe, and I have to say, my first experience was rather disconcerting. I threw at it a relatively obscure question about an event in the third book of A Song of Ice and Fire series, involving characters Arya Stark and Sandor Clegane. To my surprise, Google Bard's response, while confident, was a bizarre mix of actual characters and situations from the book series, but th…

> As a point of comparison, I posed the exact same question to OpenAI's ChatGPT-4. It responded with a spot-on account of the event, complete with rich detail and an impressive level of accuracy. Which, most likely, implies that chatgpt was trained and retains actual book content rather than random people talking about it on the internet. Which model is more likely to be in violation of some copyright?

The ChatGPT one, but that isn’t my problem. My concern is whether it gives me good information. The issue of copyright is an unfortunate issue for someone else to litigate.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#159
post #154

We've been experimenting with LLMs to create price predictions and stock analysis for day trading, and I really haven't been impressed with Bard at all. People in the comments are comparing it to gpt-3.5 and, for our use at least, I wouldn't say it's even remotely close. It's a very clear win for OpenAI. It's not just that the accuracy of the predictions is wrong, it's that the analysis itself is just not in any way…

I had the same exact experience with Bard/GPT3.5 and I'm using GPT-4 for a similar purpose of generating "analysis reports" from raw data coming out of a trading algorithm system.

GPT 3.5 had similar problems with formatting and following instructions, and I found that I had to move key instructions to the front of the description or else it would wander off the reservation.

GPT-4 operates as if I had dumped a collection of data on a junior analyst's desk and asked them to write up a report for our clients. It can even follow instructions like "insert market related joke or jab at the Fed here" in a completely believable way.

Re: Bard’s latest update: more features, languages and countries

#160
post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it went on an unprompted rant about how I should speak to it "politely". Can you share the prompt that led to this? I agree this sounds pretty disconcerting.

Alright... Please don't judge me for how stupid this conversation is. Also, looking back at it now I probably should have just ignored its attempt to moralise instead of questioning it. https://ctxt.io/2/AABQPBXNEw

https://ctxt.io/2/AABQ5IODFg
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