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Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#21

Learning French despite not living in a Francophone country. During the pandemic I wanted to see what the process is really like for a language that I had no prior experience in. Turns out the entire popular consumer facing industry for this sort’ve thing doesn’t help for anything but tourist phrases (i.e Duolingo). It took a lot of time and determination to put in the regular exposure every single day to train my ea…

Could you expand on your learning practice - resources, online lessons, etc? I'm interested in see what led you to becoming relatively proficient in what I would personally a consider a rather fast pace.

Yeah, definitely.

I started with what I call “bootstrapping” the language, which is learning enough to understand at least a few sentences of unbroken spoken French - this I accomplished with listening to the first 2 seasons of Coffee Break French, as well as grades readers. This I’d say took around 6 months.

The next phase after that was expanding vocabulary and ease of expression. This is when I started listening to the Innerfrench podcast which is a fantastic resource - the first few episodes are much slower than recent material, but even that took time. This was the same time I started consistent Italki lessons. I find trying to start lessons before this point is difficult as you can’t really hold a decent conversation yet. You really need a base.

I’d say that phase lasted… another 6 months? It was around that time I switched jobs and in between spent 6 weeks by myself in France, which as you can imagine was a supercharger of learning. I slept like a baby every night after the mental exhaustion of trying to keep up.

After this point the key has really been lessons, lessons, lessons, and more lessons, at least as far as mastering output goes. You need as many opportunities to practice as possible, and one thing I found that was key was finding tutors who have different favorite subjects. I have one with whom I speak about my daily life, another with whom I discuss the news and society, and another where we watch a movie or read a book and discuss it each time we meet. This is also the point I moved up to real French literature, beginning with Camus but branching out to many other authors I now like quite a bit. Reading is quite challenging since the breadth of vocabulary can be astounding, but the key is to look up whatever you really can’t infer.

At some point in the last year I’d say all this got me from B1 to B2 in the CEFR framework, at least in all skills but writing.

Happy to expand on anything if you find it interesting! I think 2.5 years was probably the fastest I could do this all without a gigantic time investment or moving to a Francophone country.

Edit: Are you learning French or another language?

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#22

On being earnest. I have a feeling that being earnest might be the actual "unlock" that unlocks everything else. A meta unlock if you will. For the longest time in my life, I was very good at things but because of that I sort of never trained or practiced anything earnestly. I hit my ceiling when I jumped into entrepreneurship and quickly found out that my skills which helped me with my career weren't enough. I tried…

Can you elaborate on the specific steps you took towards becoming more earnest? Also, how do you define "earnestness"?

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#23

A daily anki habit. The habit to check my cards, but also to add new ones. It's perhaps not a skill exactly, but it feels like a superpower nonetheless. I started creating flashcards when I began studying spanish for my wife. --- a very common introduction to flashcards is via language learning. But these days I put anything into a card that I feel is useful. It could be an actual event (like recently) with the russi…

I wish I was better about this. I still use anki for my online masters program classes, but as soon as the class is over I stop and forget about +80% of what I had learned. Out of curiosity how many cards are you re/viewing per day?

About 60 per day.

If you are serious about anki and start developing a big library I would recommend as well using: https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs4anki/tree/mai...

It's a scheduler that's pretty well thought out, and can spread your reviews so they are a bit more balanced.

But as I mentioned (and I think this is where the skill comes in) I prune my cards every day. I'm not afraid to delete cards, I think it's crucial, interests change, circumstances change. So just drop what now seems superfluous.

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#24
Being happy even with small things. For example buying a new pen or using new tool makes me happy like a kid receiving candy. I can be happy being alone or in group of people. Slowly I am trying to have zero expectations and not to get effected by anyone actions or words.

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

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On being earnest. I have a feeling that being earnest might be the actual "unlock" that unlocks everything else. A meta unlock if you will. For the longest time in my life, I was very good at things but because of that I sort of never trained or practiced anything earnestly. I hit my ceiling when I jumped into entrepreneurship and quickly found out that my skills which helped me with my career weren't enough. I tried…

Can you elaborate on the specific steps you took towards becoming more earnest? Also, how do you define "earnestness"?

Haha you are sharp and rightly identified that I sort of sidestepped that important question in the previous reply. Honestly it is still really hard for me to sort of put into words the mentality and the behaviour I am alluding to. "Earnestness" comes closest and I am defining it as "sincerity".

Essentially it comes down to taking a look at reality as it really is, learning things and testing what you have learnt in the real world. (e.g. I was interested in branding since I think that is a huge hack which is sort of underutilized by smaller companies, but to do it well requires studying branding and it's different variable and how to manipulate them, isolate testing each variable and seeing results which can be a mix of objective and subjective metrics vs The older way would be to read some brand books, apply a few things and call it a day because "branding takes time")

It's also about being clear what you want and making sure that the path you are on will get you there.

Most importantly it's about being honest with yourself. Asking yourself, are you really happy with the path you are going down? If you want to change, and sincerely change, it is hard work but doable. But it needs to start with being intellectually honest and doing the work, taking the notes, collating the information and really working hard.

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#26

Piano and coding. One pays the bills, but I love both. I learned to play piano and currently play through sheet music. I use MuseScore and can play most "normal" music at roughly 70-80% tempo just sight reading. Then I supplement that with classical music for longer, more difficult pieces.

When you first were getting started learning piano, were you using MuseScore to learn or did you use something else?

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#28

The skill to filter out a lot of bullshit at a glance. What I mean by that is seeing or clicking on a link, news source, article, video, etc. and immediately having a strong hunch on how skeptical I should be towards it. I'm not a trained scientist or journalist or anything of that sort, but being chronically online, having spent too much time during my teens on sketchy image boards, and sifting through lots of mater…

I would expand that to the general ability to parse bs. Just understanding the different incentives of each actor, why a certain agenda by an individual/brand/group is being pushed, etc.

Re: Ask HN: What one skill are you proud of developing on your own?

#30
Frugality and strong aversion to spending money unnecessarily. I live in the Bay Area, in a one bedroom apartment, for $45k a year after tax, and I feel my life is generally rich of experiences: I have a pleasant bike commute to work, go to many restaurants, international travel, hiking, swimming in rivers, have a loving girlfriend, etc.

Most people simply do not believe me. They think you have to spend $200k+ for a decent lifestyle.

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