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Re: Emacs GUI Library

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Post by deafpolygon » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 4:30 AM UTC

nequo wrote: post #99

deafpolygon wrote: post #94

Unpopular take; let's move beyond this and ditch Emacs - invest in newer things (glad I can only get downvoted to -4, which I fully expect with this comment).

For better or for worse, Emacs is in a unique spot with package availability and with how easy it is to extend. Do you have a good copyleft alternative that its maintainers can't just turn into closed source, or one that is fully open source and isn't injected with telemetry?

Emacs is also very old, rooted in antiquity, and has cruft that really needs to be jettisoned. What prevents us from creating copyleft alternatives to Emacs that are rooted in a modern paradigm?

Re: Emacs GUI Library

#102

Post by nequo » Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 5:20 AM UTC

deafpolygon wrote: post #101

nequo wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For better or for worse, Emacs is in a unique spot with package availability and with how easy it is to extend. Do you have a good copyleft alternative that its maintainers can't just turn into closed source, or one that is fully open source and isn't injected with telemetry?

Emacs is also very old, rooted in antiquity, and has cruft that really needs to be jettisoned. What prevents us from creating copyleft alternatives to Emacs that are rooted in a modern paradigm?

What prevents us is probably the willingness to put in the hours and the coordination to do so. It is not easy to write an alternative that improves on it but is also capable of running Org and Magit which are two nontrivial packages that make people stick with Emacs.

Re: Emacs GUI Library

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Post by e40 » Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 12:53 PM UTC

palmy wrote: post #48

This post just made me check out XWidget support in Emacs, and oh my bejebus is this amazing. Yes, it's not like running an actual browser, but this is so much better than anything I expected. https://macowners.club/posts/using-xwidgets-on-macos/ gave me a quick and nice overview of how it looked.

Just tried the install given in the above blog and the resulting emacs wouldn't take any input. All of it was read by the Terminal where I started emacs-mac.