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Re: xAI

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Post by paxys »

jimlongton wrote: post #158
paxys wrote: post #9

> We are actively recruiting experienced engineers and researchers to join our team as members of our technical staff in the Bay Area. It's funny that after all the talk of remote work, tech globalization and the SF/Silicon Valley exodus in the last few years (including much of it from Musk himself), we end up with pretty much all mainstream AI companies – OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, Nvidia, Scale AI, Midjourney, and…

> The technological center of world continues to be a hundred square miles in Northern California If your definition excludes the likes of the entire semiconductor industry for example.

Where is the semiconductor industry based? Who do you think designs all the current industry leading CPUs and GPUs?

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Post by px43 »

paxys wrote: post #221
jimlongton wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The technological center of world continues to be a hundred square miles in Northern California If your definition excludes the likes of the entire semiconductor industry for example.

Where is the semiconductor industry based? Who do you think designs all the current industry leading CPUs and GPUs?

Hillsboro, Oregon?

Not just Intel either. Nvidia, Apple, etc have big design teams in the area, and ASML and other major players in the semiconductor space have a large presence as well.

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Post by fomine3 »

stillsut wrote: post #147
sterlind wrote: post #135

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are the researchers allowed to disagree with Musk? if the supposedly-objective AI they produce contradicts Musk's views, will he accept that he's wrong? or will he call it a bug, or pressure his researchers into training it to support his ideologies? in short: do you really believe this is Musk producing an objective truth-aligned AI and not just a Musk-aligned AI?

Me sense is its more permissible to publicly disagree with Musk on ideology than any other CEO of a large company in the world. I can't imagine that working at Google, Disney, ESPN, OpenAI, even Y-combinator! What ideological belief does Musk hold that would create friction with his employees?

You didn't see the twitter fire drama

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Post by agnosticmantis »

> The goal of xAI is to understand the true nature of the universe.

Genuinely curious: Does anybody take this stuff seriously?

I just feel embarrassed to be working in tech (in Silicon Valley of all places), being associated with these charlatan clowns peddling nonsense like this and being praised for it.

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Post by cma »

jimlongton wrote: post #186
cma wrote: post #159

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AI may start contributing new math and science fairly soon.

The people who could instruct such AI and evaluate its outputs would be domain experts. Without them how would you even start to approach those problems?

Have you looked at the papers and C.V.s of the people on the front page of x.ai? Many have already worked on machine guided proofs and I see people with pure math and physics backgrounds.

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Post by ks2048 »

blitz_skull wrote: post #213
stubybubs wrote: post #71

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Oh you know. Stuff like limiting voting rights to people with children. https://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/elon-musk-appea...

How does supporting this idea make him fascist?

I don't think supporting this idea alone makes someone fascist, but diminishing of democracy is one of the pillars of fascism.

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Post by pms »

seydor wrote: post #162
kklisura wrote: post #47

Huh. I thought _understanding universe_ would require research in quantum mechanics, string theory, astrophysics… you know - physics. Not _AI_.

If the AI understands the universe, humans dont have to

So how will we know that it did?

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Post by oska »

BryantD wrote: post #24
dwaltrip wrote: post #6

For those in the know, any comments about the team? Looks impressive to my uniformed eyes.

Hard for me to tell — the links all go to Twitter and I don’t have a Twitter account, so I can’t see what’s there.

You can put the listed names in any search engine

Here's some links I found for the 3 names I searched on

Igor Babuschkin :

* https://babushk.in/index.html

Yuhai (Tony) Wu :

* https://yuhuaiwu.github.io/

* NeurIPS Chats — Yuhuai Wu: LMs for Math (Minerva) + the Future of Bootstrapping Reasoning [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4DFvgs810o

Toby Pohlen :

* https://github.com/TobyPDE

Re: xAI

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Post by pms »

cma wrote: post #225
jimlongton wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people who could instruct such AI and evaluate its outputs would be domain experts. Without them how would you even start to approach those problems?

Have you looked at the papers and C.V.s of the people on the front page of x.ai? Many have already worked on machine guided proofs and I see people with pure math and physics backgrounds.

Formal verification research is conducted since 30+ years and LLMs aren't really good at math and logic, so based on what grounds can we expect a breakthrough in machine guided proofs anytime soon?

Re: xAI

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Post by pms »

naasking wrote: post #209
adoxyz wrote: post #96

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I feel like the myth-building stuff really fell apart for Elon after he exposed himself with the Twitter stuff. For a good half-decade in the 2010's he was real-life Tony Stark. Rockets, self-driving cars, clean energy, super unrealistic goals that somehow he kept delivering on despite everyone saying it's impossible, and then then since like 2018 he's just been on a downward spiral. So sad.

I'm curious where this downward spiral is happening. Sure, Twitter doesn't look to be doing so well. Is one data point sufficient for this spiral?

When I was first reading about Musk, 12 years ago, I was extremely impressed, to the point of being ready to invest in Tesla and SolarCity. However, when Elon entered the AI space about 7 years ago it became clear to me that: (i) he is entering a field that he doesn't know, while talking about it as if he knew it, (ii) marketing and hype matter to him more than science.
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