SF's Anchor Brewing Company shutting down after 127 years

Post by xgl5k » Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 7:40 PM UTC

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The doom loop started when SF became so expensive, it started to price out all the people and culture that made it unique and interesting. That certainly did start decades ago.

I feel you are moving the goal posts. The "doom loop" narrative only emerged in the last few months. Lots of problems existed for a long time. Affordability is one. Smash and grab at tourist spots is another. Homelessness. Drugs in the tenderloin. All old problems. Then there are the pandemic problems, and relatedly, lack of demand for office and retail. But there are a bunch of false narratives that SF suddenly beca…

Post by sfpotter » Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 7:42 PM UTC

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I'm a little surprised Anchor didn't do better. I personally got worn out by all the craziness and experimentation in the craft brewing scene. Really unique IPAs or sour beers were fun for a while, but after a while, I realized I just wanted something reasonably good and predictably normal, i.e. a Normal Good Beer. It seemed like Anchor was delivering on this, but maybe there were enough other options that they just…

> had a successful unionization effort Just forming a union should not be a measure of success. If it ultimately led to shutdown of the division because it was unprofitable, I would argue it was a pretty unsuccessful effort.

Post by svachalek » Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 7:42 PM UTC

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The trend isn't away from drinking, it's away from beer. Seltzers and other malt-based drinks have had huge growth in the past few years, mostly at the expense of beer sales, and liquor sales are up as well. Slate's been doing a great series over the past week about these trends if you're interested: https://slate.com/tag/beer-package .

I wonder how much of this is the beer industry eating its own seedcorn by focusing more and more on super bitter IPAs that beer snobs love at the expense of more middle of the road palatable beers. The long term consequence of that plus beer snobbery looking down on light beers is that younger drinkers with sweeter palates just don't drink beer at all because the beer that is socially acceptable is too bitter for the…

Post by xgl5k » Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 7:45 PM UTC

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> According to a press release, the brewery has been facing challenging economic factors and declining sales since 2016. Well before this "doom loop" shit was coined. Seems like a very long, slow loop if that's the case. Also, it seems like you created your account to talk about the doom loop on this thread. Edit: no, correction, your account is older but this is the only comment?

The doom loop started when SF became so expensive, it started to price out all the people and culture that made it unique and interesting. That certainly did start decades ago.

Post by spookthesunset » Wed, Jul 12, 2023, 7:47 PM UTC

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Totally agree. The craft beer industry needs to stop with all this IPA nonsense. It’s absurd how hard it is to find anything but yet another weird IPA. If the craft beer industry is shrinking, this is one large component. Stop with the nonstop IPA’s. There is way more beers than just IPA’s.

Not sure why you were downvoted. What you say is true! I’m a bit biased, but I’d like to see a few more Porters and Stouts.