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Re: xAI

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Post by machdiamonds »

md_ wrote: post #31
paxys wrote: post #21

> The goal of xAI is to understand the true nature of the universe. Who wants to bet it's going to end up launching a "me too" generative AI product. Maybe Musk should first take these skills to Tesla's self driving division then worry about the rest of the universe.

My money is on shipping the OpenAI API, wrapped with a prompt like, "Below is a conversation between an intelligent AI assistant which deeply understands the true nature of the universe, and a human."

I would bet on this not happening.

Re: xAI

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Post by kstrauser »

webnrrd2k wrote: post #93
bozhark wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drugs aren’t why people are shitty. They’re shitty before the drugs too.

I don't know... I think some classes of drugs amplify someones shittyness. Call it Inherent Shittyness (IS). Time is a big factor, too. The longer they are on drugs, theore shitty they become. Δ Shittyness = IS x drug amount x duration Sometimes people get off illegal drugs and become decent again, but

I also think that everyone has a Decency score, where

Net Shittyness (NS) = IS + Decency

Some drugs remove the Decency filter such that NS = IS. If a person knows they have a high IS, and that, say, alcohol temporarily lets that show through, and they care about their perceived NS, then it behooves them to stay away from it.

Re: xAI

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Post by chasing »

jchw wrote: post #131
miqueturner wrote: post #104

Why are there no women involved? (Please not trolling, I am curious.)

Not really sure why this stands out to so many people. I believe the percentage of programmers who are women is something like 5-8%. Even being kind of generous, out of 12 people that would still not make an entire person. Demographics might differ for AI researchers or other STEM fields adjacent but in general it seems odd to be surprised when it's literally how things have been for at least decades. Not saying this…

Every report I see indicates that ~20-25% of software engineers in the US are women.

For example:

https://www.celential.ai/blog/percentage-of-female-software-...

https://www.zippia.com/software-engineer-jobs/demographics/

Provide other data if you think that's wrong.

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Post by caeril »

Conscat wrote: post #113
anonzzzies wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don’t understand this Twitter obsession. In my mind, Musk literally did a Last King Of Scotland type of drama where he proved that too much power for too long will always drive you completely insane. God complex, paranoid, and generally feeling you need to parent the world, even by force. He is not quite a warlord but digitally quite comparable. He was good with cars, Mars, internet for the masses. Why??? If…

Twitter is not remotely the start of what's wrong with Elon Musk. His companies have all been stupidly and impulsively managed and he only succeeds because most of the time he doesn't get sued for contract violation, blocking roads, financial fraud, or wildlife destruction. He was not good with cars, he forced himself into a leadership role at Tesla, made changes that ran over budget, then blamed it on the real found…

> His companies have all been stupidly and impulsively managed

This is generally a true statement, and all of your criticism of his companies is accurate.

But what I find hilarious is that HN nearly universally carried his water until The Ukraine Tweet. This site was a unanimous Elon fanboy club right up until the moment he disagreed with CIA talking points.

Nothing changed about him, his behavior, or his companies. He's always engaged in some degree of charlatanism and he's always been a prolific shitposter on twitter dot com. HN ate it up.

Until that fateful day when he had the temerity to suggest that maybe NATO expansionism wasn't the best idea, and that we shouldn't risk nuclear war.

From that point forward, he became the HN enemy, and precisely the same comments that would have been flagged previously, were highly upvoted.

Funny how political tribalism still works amongst the 130 IQ crowd.

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Post by blaze33 »

paxys wrote: post #21

> The goal of xAI is to understand the true nature of the universe. Who wants to bet it's going to end up launching a "me too" generative AI product. Maybe Musk should first take these skills to Tesla's self driving division then worry about the rest of the universe.

> The goal of xAI is to understand the true nature of the universe.

Indeed, I'm sure it's marketing speech but it tells me nothing about what xAI actually does. Yeah, something AI-related I guess, way to go...

I'm currently reading C. G. Jung ("L'homme a la découverte de son âme", French title, doesn't seem to be an English edition to this one though, roughly translates to "man discovering his soul") where among other things he talks about the nature of reality: "the psyche is the real entity in the supreme degree, since the only immediate one". And also that your typical Western man usually suffers from "the disease of knowing-a-priori-everything-better-than-anyone"...

Maybe Elon should read it and get a grasp of himself because I probably won't take lessons about the true nature of the universe from the guy who literally wants to do dick measuring contests on twitter.

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Post by kklisura »

cma wrote: post #159
kklisura wrote: post #47

Huh. I thought _understanding universe_ would require research in quantum mechanics, string theory, astrophysics… you know - physics. Not _AI_.

AI may start contributing new math and science fairly soon.

Sure, but are we at the point where science is now just a "data problem", as in: we have a lot of data we can't interpret, so we need AI help there? I honestly don't know, but would guess that that's not the case.

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Post by machdiamonds »

bearjaws wrote: post #48
paxys wrote: post #21

> The goal of xAI is to understand the true nature of the universe. Who wants to bet it's going to end up launching a "me too" generative AI product. Maybe Musk should first take these skills to Tesla's self driving division then worry about the rest of the universe.

If it follows the path of Twitter it will be a "free speech AI" that will censor anything negative about Elon.

There's lots of negative things about him on Twitter right now

Re: xAI

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Post by machdiamonds »

sterlind wrote: post #135
stillsut wrote: post #128

> The goal of xAI is to understand the true nature of the universe. People are misinterpreting this as the research goal. No, it's an implicit negation of an ethos - AI Ethics, Trust & Safety, ESG, Politically Correct - that have dominated decision making in product and hiring in tech for the past decade. Whether or not you agree with him, it's hard to deny that Musk is the only one offering researchers an escape fro…

are the researchers allowed to disagree with Musk? if the supposedly-objective AI they produce contradicts Musk's views, will he accept that he's wrong? or will he call it a bug, or pressure his researchers into training it to support his ideologies? in short: do you really believe this is Musk producing an objective truth-aligned AI and not just a Musk-aligned AI?

You think SpaceX, Tesla, etc. All succeeded because people weren't allowed to disagree with him?

Re: xAI

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Post by gonehome »

kstrauser wrote: post #169
bhouston wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I haven't witness any drug use in the various developer circles I've run except for ADHD meds. The number on ADHD meds is somewhere around 5-10% I would guess...

In the Bay Area, I'd suspect that the number using weed is way higher.

I'd guess 10% at most, but probably less (on a semi-regular basis, number for those that have ever tried it is higher).

There's strong selection bias with drug use because drug users tend to cluster together, I suspect it's a lot less common than people think.

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