I wonder what will happen to the technology research team at YUI. I really learned a lot from the YUI Theater and the many amazing JavaScript presentations from Douglas Crockford.
'Deep' layoffs expected at Yahoo
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Re: 'Deep' layoffs expected at Yahoo
#22How in the world do they have 14,000 employees? I just checked the Yahoo.com site right now, yup still looks the same as it did in 1998 except now it's nicely formatted for an 800px wide monitor. What are all these people doing all day long?
Yahoo owns a bunch of things like Flickr (and previously Delicious). Though IIRC, I thought that they already cut a bunch of staff from these other projects.
Re: 'Deep' layoffs expected at Yahoo
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
>...there are not too many companies which deal with the kind of scale and tech Yahoo does and a lot of people like that" Google, Facebook, Apple - all here in the bay area, all massive scale. Are yahooligans not flocking to these giants?
Well moving jobs, even for the most talented employees can be difficult for a number of reasons. 1) inertia, there is alot to be said for working at the same place for 10 years, you know the people, systems, and processes. By this time you might be 35 and married with a few kids. Often you don't know if you have the energy to go do it all over again. 2) fear of failure. If you've been somewhere and grown into a role…
All the points you make are negative. I.e. they all point to reasons, fear based, which a Yahoo employee would be staying. That sucks.
Sure, Yahoo is scale - but isn't it in 95% maintenance mode? What innovation is Yahoo doing. I am not aware of any initiatives like at Google and Facebook where they are doing something along the lines of the open computing, or their own hardware dev for datacenter infrastructure advancement. I could be completely misinformed.
I am, however, of the opinion that we are just watching Yahoo on life support. A zombie company with vital signs (users) but no cognitive ability (growth, innovation, new products etc).
I am not trying to denigrate Yahoo -- I just have seen nothing that gives me any confidence what-so-ever that I should care about them as a company.
I don't know how much cash they have - but I have said this in the past here on HN - if there was anyone with any brains in the Yahoo C-Suite, they would be taking their wads of cash and backing every startup in the valley in a YC manner with the same goal of owning 5-10% of the future.
They should be widely investing in the market and then leveraging their "massive scale" infrastructure, datacenter expertise etc to hosting and supporting all these companies.
There is lot of opportunity that Yahoo is simply too complacent to take advantage of.
Yahoo could be a game changer if they stopped trying to think of themselves as a portal or even search site (I don't think they believe at all they are a search portal given their fealty to Bing) and start realizing that they are an infrastructure asset with ~2 billion in cash and over a decade of valley domain expertise in high volume traffic. (They had 2B in both 2003 and in 2009 as far as I can find)
Invest/buy/acquire like mad and get a good % of the action in the valley. Get NEW users on that infrastructure which appears to be rotting.
Re: 'Deep' layoffs expected at Yahoo
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
>...there are not too many companies which deal with the kind of scale and tech Yahoo does and a lot of people like that" Google, Facebook, Apple - all here in the bay area, all massive scale. Are yahooligans not flocking to these giants?
Well moving jobs, even for the most talented employees can be difficult for a number of reasons. 1) inertia, there is alot to be said for working at the same place for 10 years, you know the people, systems, and processes. By this time you might be 35 and married with a few kids. Often you don't know if you have the energy to go do it all over again. 2) fear of failure. If you've been somewhere and grown into a role…
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Re: 'Deep' layoffs expected at Yahoo
#25How in the world do they have 14,000 employees? I just checked the Yahoo.com site right now, yup still looks the same as it did in 1998 except now it's nicely formatted for an 800px wide monitor. What are all these people doing all day long?
Yahoo owns a bunch of things like Flickr (and previously Delicious). Though IIRC, I thought that they already cut a bunch of staff from these other projects.
I bet half the people on HN could run Flickr better by themselves.
Re: 'Deep' layoffs expected at Yahoo
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
>...there are not too many companies which deal with the kind of scale and tech Yahoo does and a lot of people like that" Google, Facebook, Apple - all here in the bay area, all massive scale. Are yahooligans not flocking to these giants?
Well moving jobs, even for the most talented employees can be difficult for a number of reasons. 1) inertia, there is alot to be said for working at the same place for 10 years, you know the people, systems, and processes. By this time you might be 35 and married with a few kids. Often you don't know if you have the energy to go do it all over again. 2) fear of failure. If you've been somewhere and grown into a role…
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#27Interesting timing: Yahoo, the Internet search engine turned news and multimedia portal, will unveil its first season of scripted comedy programming on Monday. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/arts/television/yahoo-sta...
I think the comedy that goes on at the rest of Yahoo is quite unscripted.
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#28"Yahoo, of course, has had stagnant revenue and share price for several years now as it has been eclipsed by Google and Facebook as a favorite destination for online advertisers."
We manage PPC for a lot of companies and we would love to spend more money on Yahoo, but they don't have enough traffic. We are maxing out on Yahoo, but Google has way more eyeballs
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#29I am amazed that anyone still works there. Are facebook and google continually inundated with Yahoo ex-pat applications? Anyone at Yahoo on HN that could provide a day-in-the-life? Or anyone from Yahoo have any stories of trying to find work elsewhere?
I left Yahoo three weeks ago to do my own thing. There are lots of talented people at Yahoo - there are not too many companies which deal with the kind of scale and tech Yahoo does and a lot of people like that. Some of them have been there for over a decade. What is happening to the company is very sad.
I remember you. You were trying to convince me to take the offer from Yahoo. Seems like things have changed for you as well.