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Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#351

This is a really well written article. If you haven't bothered reading about DisplayPort because you knew VGA, somewhat knew DVI and thought that HDMI is the culmination of it all, where then DisplayPort is just some further kind of evolution, this article does a really good job at explaining how DP is very different and something new, something worth knowing about. The core sentence which made me actually read the a…

Do you know what sucks? DisplayLink. It's 2023, and the best we have for 3 monitors (MacBook Pro, and 2 external monitors) is basic screen scraping with software drivers if you want to use a single cable... otherwise you have to fall back to 2 cables (one for power + first monitor, and one HDMI). The other reason why DisplayLink sucks is performance (or lack of) - what they don't tell you on the box. Video is like 16…

This is only because MacBooks do not support MST. On all of my non MacBook laptops I can use multiple monitors over USB-C.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

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post #115

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> If this were true, then people would be running datacenter networking over HDMI. Why would they? If they need more bandwidth than what Ethernet provides, they'd probably just bite the bullet and go with fiber. ...which punts the previous question to why the industry hasn't gone all-in with fiber optic display connectors, like it has with TOSLINK for S/PDIF in the audio world.

TOSLINK/S/PDIF is way out of date and no one uses it any more. Ironically, because it doesn't have enough bandwidth for things like Atmos.

Not entirely true. My house was built with an A/V closet that's not in the living room. To put analog equipment (like a turntable) in the living room where it's used, I convert the analog signals into digital with a $100 A/D converter that sends them over CAT-6 under the house to a decoder that connects to the receiver with Toslink. It works great, and I bought this in the last three years.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

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I also noticed that many boards are 3xHDMI+1xDP now. My previous card was 3DP 1HDMI

What card is 3xHDMI + 1xDP? I just checked and at least the reference rtx 4080 is still 3xDP 1xHDMI

The Gigabyte 3070 I have certainly is.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#354

Can we please get monitors that can find their signal within 100ms? Can we please get monitors that communicate their orientation (portrait/landscape etc.) to the computer?

This is truly disgusting, I bought Samsung U28R55 and it takes over 15 seconds to switch between HDMI1 and HDMI2, HDMI2 and DP, or between DP and HDMI1. When it lost signal it become unresponsive, monitor menu disappears, any debug info disappears and you can only push joystick to switch video source to another one, so if I need to switch between DP and HDMI2 it takes almost one minute and user experience is joke.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#355

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Do you know what sucks? DisplayLink. It's 2023, and the best we have for 3 monitors (MacBook Pro, and 2 external monitors) is basic screen scraping with software drivers if you want to use a single cable... otherwise you have to fall back to 2 cables (one for power + first monitor, and one HDMI). The other reason why DisplayLink sucks is performance (or lack of) - what they don't tell you on the box. Video is like 16…

This is only because MacBooks do not support MST. On all of my non MacBook laptops I can use multiple monitors over USB-C.

Ah damn. After your comment and reading around here, looks like it's going to be impossible to support this natively with a single cable.

... there goes my cable feng shui

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#356

This is a really well written article. If you haven't bothered reading about DisplayPort because you knew VGA, somewhat knew DVI and thought that HDMI is the culmination of it all, where then DisplayPort is just some further kind of evolution, this article does a really good job at explaining how DP is very different and something new, something worth knowing about. The core sentence which made me actually read the a…

Do you know what sucks? DisplayLink. It's 2023, and the best we have for 3 monitors (MacBook Pro, and 2 external monitors) is basic screen scraping with software drivers if you want to use a single cable... otherwise you have to fall back to 2 cables (one for power + first monitor, and one HDMI). The other reason why DisplayLink sucks is performance (or lack of) - what they don't tell you on the box. Video is like 16…

If you have high end monitors (4K 120Hz or 6K 60Hz), each monitor will use up all the bandwidth so using one cable for multiple monitors is a nonstarter.

IIRC there's a way around this limitation with DSC and thunderbolt docks, but it's not worth the effort.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#357

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only because MacBooks do not support MST. On all of my non MacBook laptops I can use multiple monitors over USB-C.

Ah damn. After your comment and reading around here, looks like it's going to be impossible to support this natively with a single cable. ... there goes my cable feng shui

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Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#358

I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. For a long time, my advice to anyone was to always choose DisplayPort whenever it was an option. But now that has to have the caveat of "if you have a new high-end GPU and a fancy high refresh rate monitor, HDMI might actually be better for your situation"

And only 1 new version HDMI port but 3 old version DP ports. I use a dual display setup but HDR only works on mu displays with HDMI.

The more expensive Gigabyte RTX 3080+ cards had 3x DP 1.4, 2x HDMI 2.1, 1x HDMI 2.0, which was great even if you could only use 4 of them at the same time due to Nvidia limitations. Unfortunately for the 40 series they stopped offering it and now they're the same as stock Nvidia with 3x DP 1.4, 1x HDMI 2.1.

Luckily ASUS still offers a bit more with their 4080+ cards - 2x HDMI 2.1, 3x DP 1.4. I personally depend on the 2x HDMI 2.1 to even be able to run my 4K 144Hz monitors at full speed.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

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post #227

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Same. I live in the Mac world. When I took a job where I had to use PCs at work I was surprised to see they were mostly using HDMI with some people using older DVI equipment. I had just assumed everyone had transitioned similar to Macs has years before. Nope. Lots of people use/want HDMI to this day.

> Lots of people use/want HDMI to this day. I’d wager this is less about HDMI, and more about the fact that people want their old DP-less monitors to work.

Display port to HDMI cables exist.

Re: Displayport: A Better Video Interface

#360
post #326

This is a really well written article. If you haven't bothered reading about DisplayPort because you knew VGA, somewhat knew DVI and thought that HDMI is the culmination of it all, where then DisplayPort is just some further kind of evolution, this article does a really good job at explaining how DP is very different and something new, something worth knowing about. The core sentence which made me actually read the a…

I've run into problems repeatedly when it came to DP cables. The issue is always the same: lack of enforcement and no barrier to entry allows for too many entrants, whose motives are up to consumers to discern, wasting time and money in the process. What I originally saw as a benefit of an open standard, as it turned out, was in fact a benefit (for consumers like myself) of the closed/high priced standard—which ended…

I hate the lock on DP cables since I have managed to break 2 of them when HDMI just slips out in that situation. DVI also has a lock (2 screws) but for some reason their connectors never break, why did DP has degraded that is a very big question for me.
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