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Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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This fight isn't over yet. Nevermind the misleading title. The fight is only beginning. FTC lost on the injunction, which was only sought when MSFT brazenly threatened to close the deal when it learned it would not be approved. MSFT still has a monkey on their back. Khan is far from giving up. Perhaps FTC can get a stay pending an appeal to the 9th Cir. The July 18 deadline to close is rapidly approaching.

This sounds the same as the student loan forgiveness people saying the Supreme Court decision is just the start of Biden’s fight. “He’s not defeated, this is just a small loss but he’ll definitely win the war.” Khan has lost 2 major cases recently, which isn’t a good look for her tenure so far. I don’t see how this case is recoverable considering how poorly it’s gone so far. With the EUs backing and the short time ta…

Better to lose 2 cases than to not try to appeal the mergers at all. The FTC finally is growing some teeth under Khan, and even if they aren’t winning all cases, mergers are under much more scrutiny internally in companies. It’s no longer a „will definitely go through“ kind of thing.

Khan is doing the right thing for the consumers here, and we can only hope that she perseveres.

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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This fight isn't over yet. Nevermind the misleading title. The fight is only beginning. FTC lost on the injunction, which was only sought when MSFT brazenly threatened to close the deal when it learned it would not be approved. MSFT still has a monkey on their back. Khan is far from giving up. Perhaps FTC can get a stay pending an appeal to the 9th Cir. The July 18 deadline to close is rapidly approaching.

What monkey are you referring to here? Doesn't look like the FTC has even a remote chance of successfully appealing this case.

You mean appealing the injunction? The case has not been decided has it?

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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Understandable. Nintendo is full of exclusives + it's the best selling console too (by the court's admission) and that's ok so as MS buying Actiblizz. Otherwise I don't know how would Nintendo get a pass lol, they are the worst with exclusives (and what ends up on mobile is p2w thrash) >If the Court was the final decisionmaker on the merits, it would likely find Nintendo Switch part of the relevant market. But it is…

Was Nintendo buying up huge companies? Honest question, if Nintendo achieved their market position on their own merits, without abusing their monopoly (do they have one?), would that fall in the jurisdiction of the FTC?

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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The real issue is Sony has many exclusives which gives Microsoft a better case (despite the judge saying it's NOT about Sony). It certainly harms consumers, so I don't see how the court still approved this especially with the judge's comment against the comparison to Sony. Almost all mergers of this size harm consumers, the fact that it's allowed by default is the crucial issue. If the FTC still had a spine they woul…

A judge ended the rule that studios couldn't own theaters in 2020: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomnunan/2020/08/07/judge-decre...

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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Im hoping Microsoft will altruistically stop producing these addictive “games”. As a new console player, the differences between a game like Halo Infinite and Overwatch (FPS 4v4/5v5) are enough to put me from playing and in control to binging. Here’s a tangent: The most popular sports leagues in the world are mimicked by people all over the world who play casual and team sports. The game itself is not proprietary. Wh…

> Why can’t we make popular open source video games? Well, there are some. Check out Bitburner, Battle for Wesnoth, 0 A.D, etc. The serious answer is that it's very hard work that requires a multi-year development cycle and a diverse variety of talent (design, art, etc) in addition to software engineering. In addition, a lot of the tools and game engines used to create AAA titles are very expensive (and closed-source…

https://www.beyondallreason.info/ as well.

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #282

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Call of Duty will be available for Switch under Microsoft. Halo and God of War are platform exclusives. But so are Tears of the Kingdom and various Mario titles. Elden Ring is the only game listed that's not available for Switch but is on both others. Even then, there are a ton of games that are available across all platforms, including some AAA ones: Mortal Kombat 11 The Witcher 3 Assassins's Creed (multiple) Skyrim…

The Switch runs plenty of previous generation games, because it’s capable of supporting them. The Switch wouldn’t support MW 2, and Microsoft have not announced any plans to release that game, or any upcoming CoD game on it. The reason Microsoft and Sony sign exclusive deal is mostly the keep games off each others platforms. Graphics-intensive “AAA” games aren’t going to run on the switch. Nintendo undeniably operate…

> Microsoft have not announced any plans to release that game, or any upcoming CoD game on it.

There’s a plethora of articles stating the exact opposite, such as this one:

https://afkgaming.com/esports/guide/is-call-of-duty-coming-t...

It’s something MS has been saying numerous times, including in the FTC court case.

The number of games that are exclusive to a platform that are paid to be that way is actually quite small. Almost all platform exclusives come from companies that are subsidiaries of their respective platform company (343 Studios, Naughty Dog, etc).

The argument of graphic capabilities as something that defines the Switch to be in a different market that’s that of Sony/MS is a straw man argument, IMO. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere in these comments, it’s still competing for peoples’ video game time.

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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> How does this make anyone feel any better? What happens after 10 years? What happens in less than 10 years if they don't abide by it? Does Activision get split back out? I doubt it. We're long past the point where you can just set rules/laws and companies will abide by it. We need to be at the point where we also list the punishment ahead of time.

You mean like Facebook/WhatsApp which committed to not do some things and that certain things aren't even technically possible (which even back then was a lie) to get the merger through in the EU and then a few years later was, oh that, yep, let's ignore it and just turn it into a long legal battle which will anyway cost us far less then what we gain from it.

what has fb gained from whatsapp? theyre not charging for it right?

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #172

This is weird. The judge says that because there won’t be any anticompetitive effects in the next 10 years (because MS made a pinky promise), this merger is fine? What about after those 10 years? What about anything not Call of Duty?

Microsoft don't need to make Call of Duty an exclusive. They only need to put new CoD games on Gamepass and Sony are screwed. It'll make Sony's platform look much more expensive.

Re: Microsoft wins FTC fight to buy Activision Blizzard

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post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Switch runs plenty of previous generation games, because it’s capable of supporting them. The Switch wouldn’t support MW 2, and Microsoft have not announced any plans to release that game, or any upcoming CoD game on it. The reason Microsoft and Sony sign exclusive deal is mostly the keep games off each others platforms. Graphics-intensive “AAA” games aren’t going to run on the switch. Nintendo undeniably operate…

> Microsoft have not announced any plans to release that game, or any upcoming CoD game on it. There’s a plethora of articles stating the exact opposite, such as this one: https://afkgaming.com/esports/guide/is-call-of-duty-coming-t... It’s something MS has been saying numerous times, including in the FTC court case. The number of games that are exclusive to a platform that are paid to be that way is actually quite s…

Sorry buddy, you’ve fallen for fake news. Microsoft has said they’ll bring it to Nintendo, not the Switch, and the timeframe they’ve announced for this is sometime in the next 10 years. Most non-tabloid commentators seem to think this means it will either be delivered by a streaming service, or to a yet-to-be announced new console. In any case, if it happens it will have to be accompanied by a shift in Nintendo’s position in the market.

> As I’ve mentioned elsewhere in these comments, it’s still competing for peoples’ video game time.

Penguin and Scholastic are both competing for peoples book reading time, yet they quite clearly compete in different market segments. Your argument is contrived and ignores the fact that consumers understand how these products are differentiated to appeal to different preferences.

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