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Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by rstarast »

Aachen wrote: post #52
zucked wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything you wrote is bang on - please, please, PLEASE: Leave no trace. Haul out your garbage. Don't shoot, shit, or camp within 100 yards of streams, creeks, or rivers. Don't make fire rings where they already exist. Abide by fire restrictions that might vary by county. Stay on existing, marked hiking and motor vehicle trails. As a resident of the West (which has huge swaths of "public" land) I am so tired of folk…

> PLEASE: Leave no trace Someone once mentioned "Leave it nicer than you found it" as a life philosophy, maybe in relation to Japan? I'm not sure anymore. I've taken to that, like when going for a forest walk, even if I pick up literally one tiny plastic wrapper, that's still leaving the forest better than I found it. Of course, pristine is pristine, but if there is trash, go for that good feeling and consider an eas…

Also, how many of those tiny plastic wrappers accidentally fell from someone's backpack side pocket or similar? You have to do a bit of "leave it nicer than I found it in terms of things I'm aware of" just to break even.

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by coherentpony »

manzanarama wrote: post #68
AuthorizedCust wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't make fire rings where they already exist. I think you mean that we should only use extant fire rings and not make new ones?

No, in a lot of areas when you are dispersed camping you are allowed to make fire rings. You could be camping 20 miles deep into the woods. There will not magically be a fire ring there for you. However, if there does happen to be a fire ring close by, use that one and not create a new one.

One of the many idiosyncrasies of the English language.

The sentence

> Don't make fire rings where they already exist

means both:

1. If there is an existing fire ring, do not re-use it. Make a new fire ring somewhere else instead; and

2. If there is an existing fire ring, please re-use it. Do not make a new fire ring somewhere else instead.

What they _meant_ was the second interpretation, and not the first one.

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by jacurtis »

I love paying $100 annually to get something "for free".

Jokes aside, I think this concept is cool and I'm not even upset that there is a membership fee to keep people engaged and to support the software component that coordinates this. But $100 per year? This feels like $50 per year TOPS! Really I feel like this should be closer to $20 per year.

I think it is going to be tough to get people to pay $100 subscription and then ask them to play host, just to earn the opportunity to get what is essentially free overnight parking at a 1:1 ratio of you providing it to others.

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by siftrics »

solardev wrote: post #9

For anyone looking for actually free, no strings attached (and no subscription) camping, check https://freecampsites.net/ instead. It's a community wiki of free camp sites, usually on federal lands of various sorts (National Forests and BLM lands often have primitive campsites with fire rings and not much else). It's great for travel around national parks, especially. But please do leave no trace, pack out what you b…

Don't let everyone know!

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by Tcepsa »

renewiltord wrote: post #58
solardev wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hosting is actually free (as it should be). I used to be very active on Couchsurfing and have hosted dozens of travelers -- to rave reviews, and much more often than I stayed. It doesn't cost me anything to share a couch (or a room, on the rare occasion I had a spare). What I'm objecting to is the website taking $100/yr -- for what? It's unclear -- on principle, when communities like it have existed for far cheaper a…

How can hosting possibly be free? You need a parking spot and a restroom to offer.

Probably in the "zero[0] marginal cost to owner" sense. They already paid for them; that cost has been sunk. If they aren't using them (and while I don't have citations to back this is, I'm confident that the majority of privately owned bathrooms are sitting idle and unused at least half of the day) why not let someone else?

[0] Yes, okay, fine, the marginal cost is not truly, literally zero: there'll be a few cents for water, a little wear and tear on the equipment, a few squares of toilet paper, a couple squirts of soap, etc. However, most people do not track their budgets that closely anyway, so it would be lost in the noise.

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by the_svd_doctor »

coherentpony wrote: post #82
manzanarama wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, in a lot of areas when you are dispersed camping you are allowed to make fire rings. You could be camping 20 miles deep into the woods. There will not magically be a fire ring there for you. However, if there does happen to be a fire ring close by, use that one and not create a new one.

One of the many idiosyncrasies of the English language. The sentence > Don't make fire rings where they already exist means both: 1. If there is an existing fire ring, do not re-use it. Make a new fire ring somewhere else instead; and 2. If there is an existing fire ring, please re-use it. Do not make a new fire ring somewhere else instead. What they _meant_ was the second interpretation, and not the first one.

This took me a while. I think the #1 is what most people would understand.

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by ghostly_s »

solardev wrote: post #9

For anyone looking for actually free, no strings attached (and no subscription) camping, check https://freecampsites.net/ instead. It's a community wiki of free camp sites, usually on federal lands of various sorts (National Forests and BLM lands often have primitive campsites with fire rings and not much else). It's great for travel around national parks, especially. But please do leave no trace, pack out what you b…

Like this website, the important caveat is in the Southwest. Public lands other than formal parks and preserves are basically nonexistent elsewhere.

Re: Show HN: Van, truck or car camp for $0 a night

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Post by muti »

xwdv wrote: post #69
muti wrote: post #35

1 host = 1 credit looks like a problem, similar to how it can be hard to build up ratio on well established private torrent trackers. The distribution of credits will not be even with many hosts building up credits for some nebulous future trip. How do those actually travelling around earn credits past the first 3 complimentary? Bonus point systems or just ignoring ratio solved this from my pov for trackers, the 1 to…

The idea is hosts sell off their excess credits if they don’t want them.

So it's not free to camp, we'll end up with centralised mega hosters (seedboxes in the tracker analogy) and in practice travelers will be too small time to actually be able earn any credits
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