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Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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I like wine, i’ll drink, but short of it being terrible, i’ve never been able to form a preference for any one type, i certainly couldn’t tell a quality difference between a bottle that costs 15 and one that costs 150

Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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I like wine, i’ll drink, but short of it being terrible, i’ve never been able to form a preference for any one type, i certainly couldn’t tell a quality difference between a bottle that costs 15 and one that costs 150

I think the prices much above $15 have more to do with things that have or should have a rare taste rather than a better taste in some sense that is market neutral.

Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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I like wine, i’ll drink, but short of it being terrible, i’ve never been able to form a preference for any one type, i certainly couldn’t tell a quality difference between a bottle that costs 15 and one that costs 150

I think the prices much above $15 have more to do with things that have or should have a rare taste rather than a better taste in some sense that is market neutral.

I'm more familiar with the world of spirits but it's much the same situation - there is certainly unpalatable swill on the very bottom shelf, but at some fairly low price point you hit a perfectly adequate level of quality and products priced above that level are about some combination of brand cachet and/or unique and interesting flavors, moreso than being objectively "better".

Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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What an article about nothing.

Sommeliers always do blind tastings. Taste and texture descriptors are extremely well understood. Expert winemakers can tell you a lot about the qualities of grapes, climate, and process through blind taste.

This meme that wine is fake really needs to stop. You have no reason to care even one iota about subtleties of expensive wine, but you really don’t need much training to tell good wine from bad wine.

Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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I made wine last year, a really fun process. I'm not particularly into wine, but my wife is and I live in a wine country so we thought we'd give it a try.

We used some grapes from the garden and a load we bought, our process was rustic to say the least.

We had two batches, one got shut off early after catching a nasty mold, but the other came out nicely.

My nicotine-scarred tastebuds could easily differentiate between the two, but I honestly couldn't tell the difference between the good one and store-bought stuff.

Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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What an article about nothing. Sommeliers always do blind tastings. Taste and texture descriptors are extremely well understood. Expert winemakers can tell you a lot about the qualities of grapes, climate, and process through blind taste. This meme that wine is fake really needs to stop. You have no reason to care even one iota about subtleties of expensive wine, but you really don’t need much training to tell good w…

Can you provide experimental data?

Re: Is Wine Fake? (2022)

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post #9

What an article about nothing. Sommeliers always do blind tastings. Taste and texture descriptors are extremely well understood. Expert winemakers can tell you a lot about the qualities of grapes, climate, and process through blind taste. This meme that wine is fake really needs to stop. You have no reason to care even one iota about subtleties of expensive wine, but you really don’t need much training to tell good w…

Can you provide experimental data?

GP doesn't need to, as they said sommelier exams examine on blind tasting. To a level of detail far greater than I could tell you about (though that's largely training I suppose). If someone can't tell that's fine, they can buy whatever they want, but some people can.

(And I don't think many people just start buying expensive wine without ever trying cheaper, surely most start quite cheap, develop a taste for it, and work up to some subjective level of diminishing returns and not wanting to pay more.)

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