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With HDMI, I have both video and audio traveling over a single cable. That is _extremely_ convenient. DP _theoretically_ supports audio too, but AFAIK that's not widely implemented.
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> That is _extremely_ convenient. I'm open to having my mind changed but I have not really experienced this extreme convenience in practice. The vast majority of things I plug a HDMI cable into either don't have speakers or if they do, the speakers are a bad quality afterthought. In actual fact, what has been an extreme inconvenience is the OS thinking I want HDMI audio instead of whatever much higher-quality* altern…
It was very convenient for me to have my headphones plugged into the monitor. Made it so I could plug a single cable over to my laptop and have basically everything else already done.
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Unfortunately HDMI audio is also notorious for often having serious lag, both in absolute terms and relative to the video signal.
Are you sure that it's related to HDMI? TVs often do processing on the video signal which introduces lag, but my Samsung TV in "PC Mode" is virtually lag-free (and I use Logitech's receiver for my mouse because Bluetooth feels slightly too laggy for me).
Sorry if that sounds stupid, but why isn't Ethernet used for this sort of high bw signaling?
As soon as video data is in packets, it should be routable over a network like any other data.
Give up the custom connectors, custom cables, etc.
Need a wireless display? No worries, we can route the data over wifi too.
Need 5 displays? Thats what an ethernet switch is for. Screen mirroring? We have multicast.
Need a KVM? Well you can probably write a few scripts to change which computer your screen gets it data feed from.
I believe this hasn't happened simply because audio/video people like going to conferences to design their own standards every year, keep their licensing royalties, keep their closed club - a software-only solution over any IP network isn't going to fly.
I personally prefer HDMI or DVI, I don't like DisplayPort because on the display that I have, when I turn off the display the computer detects it as if I've physically disconnected the display, which then moves all the windows that I had open around and breaks my macros...
Sounds like an OS problem. When I do that it moves all open windows to the remaining display, but when I turn the other display back on it just moves them back. No special software installed for this, just stock macOS Ventura.
Sorry if that sounds stupid, but why isn't Ethernet used for this sort of high bw signaling?
The bandwidth is much too low.
Data is data - there is no benefit to designing two entirely different transport mechanisms for video vs other data.
You could argue that video data has a deadline to meet - but ethernet already has lots of mechanisms for QoS and bandwidth reservations to make sure that someones torrents don't interrupt something latency sensitive. Sure, they aren't widely supported over the internet, but between your PC and your display - they can be engineered to work properly.
I didn’t realize Multi-Stream Transport (MST) requires OS support, and I was surprised to find out MacOS, with its great Thunderbolt support, does not support this. “Even” ChromeOS can do MST.
Thankfully, every Mac for the last 7 years has Thunderbolt3 at least, so getting dual-4K-display from a single port/cable is still very doable, you just need a TB3 to dual DisplayPort or HDMI adapter.
Sorry if that sounds stupid, but why isn't Ethernet used for this sort of high bw signaling?
I just wish there was only one connector. Either HDMI or DP. I don't care.
I've always been surprised there aren't more receptacles out there that accept either a DisplayPort or HDMI plug. I've only seen it on one motherboard, but in retrospect, it seems obvious that the DisplayPort plug was designed to facilitate such a thing.
I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. For a long time, my advice to anyone was to always choose DisplayPort whenever it was an option. But now that has to have the caveat of "if you have a new high-end GPU and a fancy high refresh rate monitor, HDMI might actually be better for your situation"
> I'm annoyed nvidia for putting the current generation of HDMI on their recent GPUs, but leaving them with an outdated version of DisplayPort. That was due to unfortunate timing where HDMI had the specifications ready before DisplayPort did.