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Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

#41

This is a similar project but fully open source (and probably less mature). The lead dev is very active and responsive. https://immich.app/

Does immich support S3 storage and multiple users? These are the two features I miss in most of theses projects, don’t really care about the AI stuff

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

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I deployed this recently and added a bunch of pictures to it. PhotoPrism prominently features an AI-generated (?) 'description' on each photo, but for 98% of my photos, it was unable to come up with any description. The install procedure is needlessly complicated, there's no good reason for an app like this to require docker. Overall, I was underwhelmed

> there's no good reason for an app like this to require docker.

Well, there is a good reason. To make the install more simple. IMHO containerization makes selfhosting way easier.

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

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It looks interesting; I might be in their target group.

But after ten minutes of browsing around, I still have some open questions regarding privacy. What would I have to do to have an absolutely, unequivocally local-only install? Can I even do that? Which features would I need to disable? Especially anything related to AI and classification raises red flags in that regard.

While it is apparent that they've given a lot of thought to privacy and while their privacy policy is definitely one of the better ones I have seen, it still conflates things such as website access with usage of the tool itself.

It would be nice to have one clear, guiding document that outlines how private a private install really is.

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

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I am extremely happy with my photoprism setup. I tried to degoogle my life and found their docker setup to be great. I use FolderSync on my android phone to copy any pictures I take to my photoprism WebDAV

> I use FolderSync on my android phone Genuinely curious, if you use Android can you truly de google your life?

It probably depends on what you mean by "de-google", but if you simply do not want to host your data at Google or depend on Google services, it's quite easy.

As far as I can tell, the only place you really need to be logged in to a Google account to get a "normal" Android experience is the Play Store, which makes sense.

I use Google Maps for example (Osmand when I can, but Google Maps is the only free app that has good traffic information) while not logged in, but my photos are hosted by Photoprism, my emails are not at Gmail, my backups are on my home server, etc.

I find myself largely independent from Google and if that's your goal, as opposed to trying to hide yourself from Google (which would be better, but I find it unrealistic for my needs), it's easy to achieve on an Android phone and certainly easier than independence from Apple on an iPhone.

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

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Some features are only in the paid version which is fair enough, but when I tried it a few months ago there was a small but permanently visible message on the app reminding me this was the free version. That was annoying.

I've read you just need to add "PHOTOPRISM_SPONSOR: "true"" to the docker compose lol.

It's not really a secret since the application is open-source. I find their relaxed approach to a paid open-source application very nice.

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

#47

This is a similar project but fully open source (and probably less mature). The lead dev is very active and responsive. https://immich.app/

that demo site looks very promising, the feature set is really quite exhaustive already at such early development stage; comes closest to full blown google photos self hosted replacement.

would be cool if also had dynamic shared albums as google photos has with facial recognition

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

#48

I am extremely happy with my photoprism setup. I tried to degoogle my life and found their docker setup to be great. I use FolderSync on my android phone to copy any pictures I take to my photoprism WebDAV

Can you share how you are hosting it, photo library file types or size, and what the performance is like? I'm always skeptical of stated requirements and what other people are prepared to put up with.

I've got an older Synology NAS that currently stores my 250GB photo library with a lot of RAWs. While it can run docker I'm not going to attempt to run it there. I'm wondering if a VM on my 10700k is going to be sufficient for great performance, or if handing over the complete machine is going to be necessary. I'm happy adding more NVMe 3.0 drives for storage.

I'm also curious how version upgrades have been for you. I want to get out of the ops business but I feel like I'm going to be dragged in.

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

#49

I have tried to install this from source but it's quite difficult. I don't like deploying opaque docker images.

Full agreement, Immich has a similar problem. I don't know at what point basic systemd services stopped being enough but docker is usually a non starter for me.

Re: PhotoPrism: AI-powered photos app for the decentralized web

#50

I have tried to install this from source but it's quite difficult. I don't like deploying opaque docker images.

I generally don't either, but I wonder: are you more comfortable with running a docker image without internet access? You can firewall your host so the container can't access it and assign an internal network to the container.

Well, I don't want to run untrusted apps for a start. I am not that desperate :)
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