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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by peepee1982 »

hnlmorg wrote: post #114
bruce511 wrote: post #68

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And yet not having a presence on the desktop stings a bit doesn't it :). You can conquer the world, dominate every space and yet there's thus little voice inside saying "but you're not good enough. See over there, in that one space, you're a weakling. " Welcome to the human condition.

No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

I'm sure as hell locked in. Linux Desktop doesn't even remotely come close to offer the things I ask out of a PC (high quality music production and image editing). On the other hand, both Windows and macOS do.

And let's not even get started about work.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by crabmusket »

trelane wrote: post #381
hparadiz wrote: post #352

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So true. If you get a System76 laptop you can get some really amazing hardware and make sure to never pay the Windows license fee.

It's not about the fee (generally it's small for you (though for the OEM it's critical, and one of the ways MSFT gets OEMs to do their bidding (a small example is how they all "recommend Windows" on their sites; it's a discount on the fees they pay MSFT)). The fee also is why you get so much crapware on new Windows boxes. It's about the hardware's support of the OS (see the firmware discussion above). It's also about…

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by q87b »

peepee1982 wrote: post #411
hnlmorg wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

I'm sure as hell locked in. Linux Desktop doesn't even remotely come close to offer the things I ask out of a PC (high quality music production and image editing). On the other hand, both Windows and macOS do. And let's not even get started about work.

Both these things are very well possible on Linux. Maybe you are more concerned about specific applications which have not been ported by their developers?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by everdrive »

azangru wrote: post #408
hnlmorg wrote: post #114

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No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

> No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. But I can't use the OS I like. I can't go in a store, pick a laptop I like, and get it with an OS I like. I can get it with an OS I don't like; and gamble that I can install on it an OS that I do like. It would have been very different if Linux market share on the desktop were in double digits.

This is a wholly valid point when it comes to Linux desktop penetration. However as an aside, it seems to me that the computers for sale in actual stores are usually of terrible quality. They’re the last the computers I would choose, and this isn’t really a Windows or ChromeOS thing. (I’d just wipe them and install Linux in any case) This doesn’t detract from your point at all, but it just seems like the most-available computers are the ones companies _want_ to sell rather than the computers that savvy consumers _want_ to buy.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by Ruq »

earthboundkid wrote: post #410
eddieroger wrote: post #405

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> 19XX will be the year of Linux on the desktop > 20XX will be the year of Linux on the desktop They've been saying it so long it's part of our psyche. It doesn't matter the other places Linux is running, it hasn't conquered that one place they've been trying to conquer since the start. You never get over the one who got away.

> 19XX will be the year of Linux on the desktop When they said it back in the 1920s it was sort of confusing, tbh.

Time Travelers, man.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by bombolo »

deaddodo wrote: post #115
nomilk wrote: post #70

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> its one of the few OSes ever on Mars When explaining linux to skeptical non-techies, I tell them it's the OS running the nuclear submarines right now. Suddenly they're more confident it can handle their ecommerce dashboard.

That's a bit of a mistatement/overstatement. That's like saying the Windows XP thin-client at Barnes and Noble runs the, mostly Linux/Unix, backend. For US nuclear subs: All of the core components and electronics use a custom RTOS; older ones built in Ada, newer ones built in C++. The "control computers" (the computers that humans interface with to tell core components what to do) aren't running anything like Ubuntu…

Didn't the uk have a warship stuck at sea due to a windows update many years ago?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by bannedbybros »

peepee1982 wrote: post #411
hnlmorg wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. I will use the OS I like and others will use the OS they prefer. It’s called choice. What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it…

I'm sure as hell locked in. Linux Desktop doesn't even remotely come close to offer the things I ask out of a PC (high quality music production and image editing). On the other hand, both Windows and macOS do. And let's not even get started about work.

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by macNchz »

TillE wrote: post #343
stodor89 wrote: post #63

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I too occasionally feel the urge to go back to Linux, but then I remember I'm a game developer. Oof.

Godot is primarily developed on Linux, but I recently tried it out on Ubuntu (NVIDIA drivers) to check compatibility, and it was shockingly laggy. Worse than macOS, and far worse than Windows, where it runs quite well. Maybe there was something about my configuration I could've tweaked to mitigate the lag, but I have zero interest in fiddling with Linux. That stuff's fun if your goal is to learn about the OS, but abs…

I can’t speak to Godot specifically, but a recent switch from Nvidia to AMD on my Ubuntu machine magically fixed a whole bunch of random jankiness that I wouldn’t otherwise have assumed was directly related to the GPU. Beforehand I would have said that running on Nvidia was “just fine”–I only switched because I got a good deal on an AMD card, but it has been a great improvement.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by 111111IIIIIII »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

That's cope.
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