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Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by vxNsr »

Mashimo wrote: post #218
Saris wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does feel like we keep going backwards for functionality while resource requirements keep increasing. Picasa had face recognition, basic editing, and a bunch of sorting features and ran on computers that had something like 1/50th the CPU performance. Meanwhile modern replacements like DigiKam, Lightroom, ON1, and so on are incredibly bloated with very slow UI response even on a very powerful desktop PC. Although I…

> Meanwhile modern replacements like DigiKam, Lightroom, ON1, and so on are incredibly bloated with very slow UI response even on a very powerful desktop PC. Darktable and ON1 feel decent snappy on my ~8 year old Desktop PC. Though it was a looong time since I last tried Picasa.

Picasa was veeery fast on my dual core, 4gb ram, spinning rust laptop from 15 years ago. I’m trying to remember if I was using the laptop I got in 2006 which only had 2gb of ram or it was the upgraded one I got a few years later with 4gb, but either way it was incredibly fast on machines we would laugh at today.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by jve »

Can someone give me recommendation?

I'm using Samsung Galaxy phone, photos auto sync to nextcloud... but I DO NOT WANT EVERY SINGLE PHOTO TO BE SYNCED. I'd rather tap "favorite" that would somehow put that photo in an album/path that gets synced/backed-up.

Does anyone have a solution? That is, I want a single tap on photo that I consider worth backing up. Or it can work other way around - single tap to exclude from sync.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by Mashimo »

mordae wrote: post #219
Mashimo wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a simple file sync service. It has object and face detection. Metadata indexing / searching and multi user support.

Multiuser support is free, face detection is cheap enough embedded camera chips do it, metadata indexing is cheap with any recent DB engine, search is cheap with them as well. The only computationally expensive thing here is face matching. Photoprism recommends two cores and 3G RAM and claims to be able to run on a NAS.

From other comments in this thread it seems you can run immich on a raspberry pi.

Any who, I don't consider it a simple sync service.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by drsnow »

jve wrote: post #253

Can someone give me recommendation? I'm using Samsung Galaxy phone, photos auto sync to nextcloud... but I DO NOT WANT EVERY SINGLE PHOTO TO BE SYNCED. I'd rather tap "favorite" that would somehow put that photo in an album/path that gets synced/backed-up. Does anyone have a solution? That is, I want a single tap on photo that I consider worth backing up. Or it can work other way around - single tap to exclude from s…

Can't you set your client to sync a specific folder and simply relocate the things you want synced to said folder?

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by rounakdatta »

djbusby wrote: post #8

How do my photos get onto this system? I don't see it from the docs.

Consider using the Immich CLI (https://github.com/immich-app/CLI) for a bulk import. The UI might hang, not give you a reliable picture (pun intended) of which files succeeded and which files failed.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by drsnow »

callmeal wrote: post #245
matthiasb wrote: post #204

The recommended spec is 4 cores and 6GB. Running this 24/7 for a year in US where the carbon intensity is about 400 gCO₂eq/kWh would produce about 150kg of CO2 per user per year. I appreciate the intent of this project, but it is not a sustainable approach. If you are taking a couple of pictures a day, you only need to run this service for a couple of minutes per day, the rest is wasted. With Google Photos, as a SaaS…

>If you are taking a couple of pictures a day, you only need to run this service for a couple of minutes per day, the rest is wasted. You can configure your server to sleep (scheduled or use WoL), which will halve (or more) that carbon emission number. Speaking of which, individual action will never approach the level that corporate action could. Take a look at the practice of gas flaring (2022 estimate of ~357 milli…

I don't understand how or why this defeatist, nihilistic attitude is growing in popularity. Do people just lack the self awareness to realize their inaction is tantamount to malice?

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by muxator »

> Prompt engineering is kind of like alchemy. There's no clear way to predict what will work best. It's all about experimenting

I know this sentence is true for prompt engineering, but please help me with my language barrier. Is the meaning of "engineering" in this context more akin to "hammering out"? Does English have a specific ambiguity here? In my language "to engineer" means a specific technical activity with strong scientific roots, and a regulated profession. You cannot legally call yourself an engineer unless you jave a specific university degree and have a specific certification.

Nothing of what is described in this sentence would ever have anything to do with "engineering".

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by rounakdatta »

amsterdorn wrote: post #238

Trying to break down the rough cost to do this via a SaaS, someone correct me if I'm wrong here: - 4 cores/6GB RAM is $40/mo on DigitalOcean, and that's with only 160GB storage. Lowest AWS S3 tier is $0.023/GB, so assuming 1-2TB of photos that's $30-40 for additional storage. - The non-named company's 2TB subscription is $100/mo, translating to savings of only ~$20. - Building a server would be probably ~$250, electr…

You're correct, but consider these kind of solutions to be more of a hobbyist-inclined. Be prepared to continue investing into maintenance occasionally (and somewhat erratically, because Immich does bring in breaking changes).

Another thing to keep in mind is that - the server you get for $250 would also allow you to deploy many other apps (I have a similar spec, and deploy ~20 apps). So, net-net if the setup brings you happiness and ROI (in any form at all), it is worth investing!

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by alex3305 »

matthiasb wrote: post #204

The recommended spec is 4 cores and 6GB. Running this 24/7 for a year in US where the carbon intensity is about 400 gCO₂eq/kWh would produce about 150kg of CO2 per user per year. I appreciate the intent of this project, but it is not a sustainable approach. If you are taking a couple of pictures a day, you only need to run this service for a couple of minutes per day, the rest is wasted. With Google Photos, as a SaaS…

> I appreciate the intent of this project, but it is not a sustainable approach.

Self-hosting anything isn't sustainable. Even your modem or router isn't sustainable. But having additional backups and privacy is worth something for me. However since I'm in Europe, electricity prices here are through the roof and I try to minimize power where possible. I self host Immich on my Intel Celeron J1800 NAS that uses 19.1Wh on average. I cannot run any ML stuff that it comes with though. But for me the carbon intensity should be about 250 gCO₂eq/kWh [1]. So running my NAS produces about 42 Kg of CO₂ per year for 2 users [2]. Including 10 or so additional applications besides Immich. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

1. https://www.eea.europa.eu/ims/greenhouse-gas-emission-intens...

2. ((0,0191 * 250 * 365,25 * 24) / 1000)

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