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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Seems that this website blocks any access from HK completely through cloudflare... Cloudflare making it easy to block entire countries, allow people to be lazy in protecting their websites and goes completely against the open web. Of course I could use a vpn but it's getting tiring that I have to do so more and more often.

> Seems that this website blocks any access from HK completely through cloudflare...

Isn't it ironic for a website promoting "free" and "libre" software?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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I once installed an Ubuntu 17 on an old desktop and my mother used it just fine. Most people don't need Windows. It's just that it comes with anything you buy and most people won't learn something new unless forced to. And to be fair why should they? They don't mind the extra cost and couldn't care less about our oss. We need to get them when they're young and impressionable and turn them into little linux evangelist…

I have met a lot of idealist linux evangelist but I was yet to meet the Machiavellian linux evangelist. I am glad to meet you and support your quest for world desktop domination.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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It's not all necessarily new, but for example on every update I seem to get 'Operation not permitted' somewhere new. Then why can't I change the spaces animation (turn it off)? Windows snapping without leaving a gap on the edge of the screen? Etc, etc. And are they now doing scans for copyright-infringing media and so on - I wouldn't be surprised. I'm an adult. It's my computer. Let me do what I want with it.

> why can't I change the spaces animation (turn it off)? You can turn on "reduce motion" and it will replace it with a much simpler fade in.

Sure, but that affects other things too - why can't I just turn this one annoying animation off completely?

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Exactly my thoughts. I think Linux is in a good sweet spot; popular enough so that applications advertise support for Linux, but not popular enough to be spoiled and optimized for the "casual" user.

>but not popular enough to be spoiled and optimized for the "casual" user I'm trying really hard to come up with a scenario where optimizing the desktop experience for the average user is a bad thing. For example, what keeps me on Windows (and WSL2) at the moment is that the freesync/variable refresh rate technology doesn't always behave as you would expect it to be, resulting in games that stutter, frame dip and eat…

> I'm trying really hard to come up with a scenario where optimizing the desktop experience for the average user is a bad thing.

Again, maybe I'm a sore loser, but it definitely feels like a lot of software is becoming increasingly hostile to me, personally because it's being optimized for a presumed average user. I have no beef with this average user and it's globally a totally correct optimization to make stuff work for them as well as possible, but it means that software makes tradeoffs that are inconvenient for me personally.

The most common use case is streamlined by removing options that clutter up the settings menu or banishing the buttons I press a lot into some tertiary menu, or niche features I rely on become unsupported and then get removed (of course with forced auto-updates, because the average user experience is improved by them) to free up developer bandwidth for the core features. And then I end up using a different off-brand window manager with the serial numbers filed off that barely works in general, but works for my specific 'workflow" exactly like I want it.

Of course, at the same time I also benefit from general improvements targeting the average user. It's only about the tradeoffs.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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It also helps that there have been very few important (big, complicated) applications in the past decade or two. Firefox is there? My development environment is there? I'm probably good.

All work and no game ...

Yeah I admit at this point in my life, much like I used to start up the SNES to play Zelda back in my parents' living room, I start up my Windows system to play Monster Hunter or whatever, while trying really hard to ignore the whole desktop thing on that system.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

2024 will be the year of Linux on the bathroom shelves if all electric toothbrushes will run it. :)

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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You might be surprised. My team only uses MacBooks at Microsoft. It’s true that I was forced to receive a PC, but it sits in a drawer collecting dust and only gets booted up when compliance throws a tantrum.

Can you elaborate on this? I have always been curious when a group works on an inferior (in terms of popularity!) product such as Ask Jeeves how they themselves work day to day in the workplace. So you worked for Microsoft and didn't use their flagship product?

What do you think the flagship product is? It’s not Windows, if we are ranking by revenue, it’s barely hanging in third place. I don’t think it’s too shocking when you consider that most of the Office products need to developed and compiled for other operating systems, and obviously Azure is not Windows dependent.

Culture has changed, nobody cares if you use a Mac. Hell I bet half the employees are taking Teams meetings on their iPhones.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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> What stung before was that people were forced to use Windows because of lock-ins, software compatibility, etc. That doesn’t really exist any more. If there is one good thing about web apps, it’s that browsers are now the application run time and browsers are more cross platform than any software libraries that have come before it. The danger that the history will repeat for browsers instead of OSs is real. The less…

Did you try setting your User Agent to Chrome? I have to use Teams for work. Under Firefox it has problems and missing features, setting my user agent to Chrome solves all of it. Highly uncompetitive if you ask me.

Thank you. That tip might lessen my need to use Brave for sites only working in Chrome.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Not anymore. Last gen phones have enough performance to run webapps without a single loss in performance, look and feel compared to native apps. Native apps will remain, but you see more and more SPAs wrapped in a hybrid app still maintaining a 'native'look. Costs of developing webapps is dramatically lower. Although native knowledge is still required for Auth, billing, advertising and other required native stuff.

I still have to see a single webapp that is as performant and feels the same as a native one. We might get there, and lots of companies are happy to release a half-backed webapp today, but that is definitely not the experience today.

Render speed of browser engines is really good these days on mobile phones. Getting fluid animations is maybe even easier and faster with css than with the Android sdk or ios. Plenty of frameworks out there to create nice SPAs. Some parts still have to be native like Auth, billing etc. But majority of the app can be web.
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