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Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by midasz »

edmundsauto wrote: post #166
entropy47 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worry about catastrophic data loss. Even at Google scale you hear stories of things going wrong and they have to resort to off-site offline storage; for stuff like photos of my kids, I just don't trust myself, the SW provider, hardware etc to sufficiently insulate me from something crazy going wrong. It only needs to happen once.

About to have my first kid, have been thinking deeply about this and decided having my own storage server is the best route. ZFS raid with redundancy to survive 2 drive losses. Will also backup offsite and take a manual snapshot each year for all my pics. Unlikely that I will backup the Plex-style media. I am just as afraid of Google shutting off my account as I am about losing my own data. I’ve been thinking about c…

1. I use nextcloud to backup photos to my NAS 2. A nightly job backups my photos to Amazon Glacier (very cheap to store, very expensive to retrieve) - This is only in the case of a catastrophic failure (e.g. house burns down). 3. Every month or so I copy the photos to an external drive (manually)

I am thinking of buying a NAS that I can setup in my parents house so I can transfer them over there automatically instead of the manual copy action to the external drive

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by ghgr »

jrm4 wrote: post #141
barbazoo wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since this is upvoted so much, I wonder what people's complete setup is for something like this to replace, say, Google Photos. So once the photos are on a "server", what do people recommend for albums, sharing, metadata, geotagging, search, etc?

Big fan of PiGallery3. Looks like pretty much any "native phone" gallery and respects folders, which is pretty much all I need.

I'm very satisfied with PiGallery2. I'd love to try PiGallery3, but I can't find it. Could you share the link for the project, or was it a typo? (hope not!)

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by matthiasb »

The recommended spec is 4 cores and 6GB. Running this 24/7 for a year in US where the carbon intensity is about 400 gCO₂eq/kWh would produce about 150kg of CO2 per user per year.

I appreciate the intent of this project, but it is not a sustainable approach.

If you are taking a couple of pictures a day, you only need to run this service for a couple of minutes per day, the rest is wasted. With Google Photos, as a SaaS, users are sharing computing power and each users are emitting less CO2.

https://engineering.teads.com/sustainability/carbon-footprin...

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by runiq »

throwaway914 wrote: post #198
adr1an wrote: post #35

I prefer SyncThing on both mobile and desktop devices. It's open source and mature, the server only makes devices findable between each other. It allows 1 or 2 way sync. And it has advanced settings for keeping removed files (e.g. trashbin that cleans anything older than X days.)

Syncthing + Tailscale. I have it set to only accept syncs from the tailscale addresses. I use this to do voice recordings that fairly quickly sync home for records of conversations. I'm unclear if Syncthing inherently encrypts transfers, but layering it within Tailscale would add that. No?

https://docs.syncthing.net/users/security.html#security-prin...:

> All device to device traffic is protected by TLS. To prevent uninvited devices from joining a cluster, the certificate fingerprint of each device is compared to a preset list of acceptable devices at connection establishment.

So yeah, transport is encrypted. I do believe they need to put that fact front and center, though. It took me a few minutes to find out. (Thanks for making me find out, though! I use Syncthing heavily and it never occurred to me to even question this.)

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by detuur »

matthiasb wrote: post #204

The recommended spec is 4 cores and 6GB. Running this 24/7 for a year in US where the carbon intensity is about 400 gCO₂eq/kWh would produce about 150kg of CO2 per user per year. I appreciate the intent of this project, but it is not a sustainable approach. If you are taking a couple of pictures a day, you only need to run this service for a couple of minutes per day, the rest is wasted. With Google Photos, as a SaaS…

Honestly, that a simple file sync service needs that kind of specs is bewildering to me.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by leokennis »

WirelessGigabit wrote: post #45
davidklemke wrote: post #30

I like the look of this. I'm currently using PhotoPrism[1] and PhotoSync[2] as a combo to get the same thing and whilst it works fine I've always thought a single app would be far better placed. Looks relatively straightforward to get running, pretty much inline with what I had to do in order to get PhotoPrism running in the first place. Only thing I couldn't see anything about was hardware acceleration, do leverage…

PhotoSync does not have autobackup for iOS last time I tried. Did this change?

It does. I use PS to sync to a WebDAV server I rent. I set PS to auto-backup when I put my phone on the charger and when I arrive at home (whether you consider this "auto" is up to you). I have opened the app exactly 0 times in the last year, and my photo backup is up to date as of this morning. PS is a shining example of a simple, reliable app.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by leokennis »

artdigital wrote: post #169

I use an app called PhotoSync on iOS and use that to sync my stuff to whatever backup solution I use. Currently that’s photoprism but it can do all kinds of stuff like WebDAV, file system, Dropbox etc Highly recommend that app

Echo this. 100% recommendation. The app does what is says it does, and does so reliably.

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by aembleton »

matthiasb wrote: post #204

The recommended spec is 4 cores and 6GB. Running this 24/7 for a year in US where the carbon intensity is about 400 gCO₂eq/kWh would produce about 150kg of CO2 per user per year. I appreciate the intent of this project, but it is not a sustainable approach. If you are taking a couple of pictures a day, you only need to run this service for a couple of minutes per day, the rest is wasted. With Google Photos, as a SaaS…

If you are running the machine anyway to do other tasks like backing up and running Jellyfish then it might be worth it.

How did you get to 150kg of CO2 per user? I'm going to assume you mean each person has one instance rather than sharing an instance like a family would. So thats 375Kwh per year, which works out as drawing 42W. That seems rather high to me.

I'm hoping to try and run this on my Pi4 which idles at under 1W. You could run on a Macbook M1 which only under heavy load conumes 42W, but I doubt this is going to need consistent heavy load: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17024/apple-m1-max-performanc...

Re: Self-hosted photo and video backups directly from your mobile phone

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Post by FatherPaulStone »

Honestly, I know it's not cool, but OneDrive is my go to here. Syncs Photos to my server, which then copies them to a local (non cloud syncing) folder, which is then indexed with Picasa.

Works a treat and requires zero intervention, although is based on a) MS software and b) deprecated Google software, so may not work forever.

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