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Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by tormeh »

ChatGTP wrote: post #50
jacknews wrote: post #45

The problem is the desktop situation is such a mess. Do you go with a gtk or qt desktop and which one? And then X11 which is ancient and creaky, or wayland which is fatally nerfed in design (if not it's entire development philosophy) even when it does do what you need which is far from always? OTOH windows is becoming adware/spyware and macos is becoming big brother lockdown-wear, so maybe it is time for linux to shi…

Been using for 15 years, I've never sat there and worried about gtk or qt, Maybe wayland or X11, but I've just naturally moved to wayland? Just install something like Fedora, and you won't worry about it, it will just work. I personally hate Ubuntu btw Canonical is just not for me. I have no idea how it's so popular. Personally Fedora or NixOS are just so superior I don't know why anyone bothers with anything else.

NixOS is great in many ways, but it’s really quite difficult to use. Anything that requires use of the command line is a no-go for everyone but hardcore enthusiasts. Even I, who have contributed to Nixpkgs, wish I could just stick to a GUI sometimes. Not to mention how NixOS breaks assumptions software has about your computer and therefore makes development much more difficult than it really needs to be.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by pjmlp »

Agentlien wrote: post #91
genmud wrote: post #2

Probably 70 or 80% of cloud workloads are Linux, and like 60% of embedded devices, of which there are billions. And of those embedded/mobile devices, the rest will either be running iOS, vxworks, freertos or zephyr. I think the joke has always been "this is the year of Linux", but in all honesty... it's the decade of Linux. It's probably one of the few areas where there is growth in computing capacity and by far most…

I find it fascinating how ubiquitous Linux is. I'm my family we have two desktop computers and a laptop. One desktop is running Linux, the other and the laptop are windows. But we're also running Linux on all our phones, two tablets, two TVs, the vacuum cleaner, our router, and probably more devices I'm forgetting or not aware of.

The Linux kernel, yes.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by 76SlashDolphin »

haunter wrote: post #106
electricduck wrote: post #10

I'm kinda surprised this entirely forgot to mention the SteamDeck. I'd love to know how much of an impact that had, considering apparently 3 million units have been sold (according to Valve). Alas, how many of those users know they are running Linux is another question.

By that logic these articles should be about FreeBSD/NetBSD not Linux cause they have more presence by running on every PS3/PS4/PS5. Roughly ~250m compared to the 3m

But other than through unofficial modding how many of those expose an open BSD environment? The Steam Deck has a desktop mode as a selling point which functions exactly like a Linux desktop.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by gcoakes »

7e wrote: post #75
DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

Sure, Linux is on many, many devices which have proprietary UIs. And there it does pretty well, because the kernel just provides generic functionality cheaply. It’s a commodity backend that could be swapped with another commodity backend without any users knowing or caring. Hooray. Linux is the go to choice when you could just as well be using something else that’s really cheap, like BSD. However, desktop Linux is wh…

> 100% OSS

Tell that to your BIOS or the firmware that runs on your WLAN or NVMe. Hell, tell that to the CPU itself[^1].

[^1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Management_Engine

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by constantcrying »

genmud wrote: post #2

Probably 70 or 80% of cloud workloads are Linux, and like 60% of embedded devices, of which there are billions. And of those embedded/mobile devices, the rest will either be running iOS, vxworks, freertos or zephyr. I think the joke has always been "this is the year of Linux", but in all honesty... it's the decade of Linux. It's probably one of the few areas where there is growth in computing capacity and by far most…

>and like 60% of embedded devices

Maybe 60% of embedded devices with an OS.

But yes, Linux (and BSD) are quite dominant outside of the desktop market segment.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by Ygg2 »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #49

I wonder why they keep making these articles. Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS. It is on virtually all servers on the Internet, the majority OS on phones, its in many TVs and STBs and streaming sticks, its one of the few OSes ever in space, its one of the few OSes ever on Mars, and it is also the OS behind ChromeOS (which that article mistakenly b…

> Linux is on more computers both today and all of the computers ever made put together than any other OS.

Yeah. But it's not its OS. The true OS of most Android installations is some propietary firmware blob.

Re: Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share

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Post by fulafel »

As observed by StatCounter, a web analytics company...

I guess this is accurate for people who are in the web ads business, but otherwise obviously it's a bad proxy and seems likely it's undercounting a lot since Linux users tend to be savvy enough to block analytics and probably do less web browsing on StatCounter monitored sites.

Eg they show Firefox as having too small to see (https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share - other data sources show 7-ish %.

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