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If it was trained on CS textbooks, they weren't very good ones. I asked it (GPT4) to write a quantum computer algorithm to square a number. It very confidently told me that to simplify the problem it would use two bits. Okay, fine. But then the algorithm it (again confidently) implemented did a left shift (which it reminded me was multiplying by 2, so it definitely intended this!) and then add the number to itself. I…

It's arguably the first useful general purpose AI. Claiming it is not worth anything at all because it can't solve a problem that 99.999% of humans would not be able to solve is a pretty ridiculous definition of 'worth'.

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#42
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These words are nonsense to me. Can someone explain?

GPT-4 is the name of a machine learning (language) model that is the basis of chatGPT. This post speculates about its internals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-4

I meant things like:

- parameters

- layers

- "Mixture Of Experts"

- tokens

That's about as far as I made it

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#44

If it was trained on CS textbooks, they weren't very good ones. I asked it (GPT4) to write a quantum computer algorithm to square a number. It very confidently told me that to simplify the problem it would use two bits. Okay, fine. But then the algorithm it (again confidently) implemented did a left shift (which it reminded me was multiplying by 2, so it definitely intended this!) and then add the number to itself. I…

What percentile rank among college-educated Americans would that correspond to?

I'd guess that takes it out of the top 0.1%, but not the top 1%.

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#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the vitriol towards OpenAI? If Elon hadn't pulled the rug out from under them after they refused his forceful takeover*, they wouldn't have had to go to Microsoft and they'd still be open. * a takeover which he predicated on the claim that OpenAI was "doomed to fail"

It's several reasons, first it's the lies and the abuse of a charity, that wouldn't be an issue if they had began as a private company instead of robbing a charity. But secondly, even if they were a private company, it's dishonest and reprehensible to claim to congress that you want to "protect the public" when you really only give a shit about protecting your moat, I'm not happy about that either. I'm also tired of…

Yeah, they went from v1 to regulatory capture in the span of months

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#46
post #42
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPT-4 is the name of a machine learning (language) model that is the basis of chatGPT. This post speculates about its internals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-4

I meant things like: - parameters - layers - "Mixture Of Experts" - tokens That's about as far as I made it

Parameters: In the context of AI and language models, parameters refer to the internal settings or variables that an AI model uses to make predictions or generate responses. Think of them as the knobs and switches that can be adjusted to fine-tune how the AI understands and generates language. These parameters are learned during the training process, where the AI model analyzes vast amounts of data to optimize its performance.

Layers: In AI, layers are like stacked building blocks within a neural network, which is the fundamental structure of many AI models. Each layer performs different computations, transforming the input data as it passes through them. Think of a layer as a specific task or filter that the AI model can utilize to understand and process information. The deeper the neural network, the more layers it has, allowing for more complex patterns and representations to be learned.

"Mixture Of Experts": An "MoE" is an approach in AI that combines multiple specialized AI models, known as "experts," to work together on a task. Each expert focuses on a particular subset or aspect of the problem, leveraging their expertise to contribute to the final result. It's like having a team of experts who specialize in different areas collaborating to provide the best solution. By dividing the task and letting each expert handle their niche, the AI model can achieve better overall performance.

Tokens: In the context of AI and language models, tokens are chunks of text that are used as input or output. They can be individual words, characters, or even subwords, depending on how the language model is designed. For example, in the sentence "I love cats," the tokens would be "I," "love," and "cats." Tokens help the AI model understand and process language by breaking it down into manageable units. They allow the model to learn patterns, context, and relationships between words to generate meaningful responses or predictions.

See: https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer

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#47
>If their cost in the cloud was about $1 per A100 hour, the training costs for this run alone would be about $63 million.

If someone legitimate put together a crowd funding effort, I would donate a non-insignificant amount to train an open model. Has it been tried before?

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#48

Previously posted about here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36671588 and here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36674905 With the original source being: https://www.semianalysis.com/p/gpt-4-architecture-infrastruc... The twitter guy seems to just be paraphrasing the actual blog post? That's presumably why the tweets are now deleted. --- The fact that they're using MoE was news to me and very interesting. I…

Interesting on a meta point that the more clickbaity title "GPT-4 details leaked" won out over the more dispassionate but drier "GPT-4 Architecture, Infrastructure, Training Dataset, Costs".

To be fair the latter has the meat of it behind a paywall.

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#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's several reasons, first it's the lies and the abuse of a charity, that wouldn't be an issue if they had began as a private company instead of robbing a charity. But secondly, even if they were a private company, it's dishonest and reprehensible to claim to congress that you want to "protect the public" when you really only give a shit about protecting your moat, I'm not happy about that either. I'm also tired of…

Yeah, they went from v1 to regulatory capture in the span of months

> regulatory capture

If this leak is correct, regulatory capture is likely the only moat OpenAI could have hoped for. It would explain why Sam was so absolutely adamant that this tech needed to receive oversight.

If correct, every big tech company now has a recipe to build their own GPT-4. I'd expect for the open source efforts to try to duplicate the results as well. LLMs will increase in quality across the board and become fairly interchangeable, leading to thin margins and a race to the bottom.

We could be watching $13 billion going up in flames, all of it predicated on a secret as flimsy as the Coca-Cola recipe.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the vitriol towards OpenAI? If Elon hadn't pulled the rug out from under them after they refused his forceful takeover*, they wouldn't have had to go to Microsoft and they'd still be open. * a takeover which he predicated on the claim that OpenAI was "doomed to fail"

It's several reasons, first it's the lies and the abuse of a charity, that wouldn't be an issue if they had began as a private company instead of robbing a charity. But secondly, even if they were a private company, it's dishonest and reprehensible to claim to congress that you want to "protect the public" when you really only give a shit about protecting your moat, I'm not happy about that either. I'm also tired of…

Did you actually read my comment or did you have a preplanned diatribe?

They didn't start the private company until the person who promised them $1B reneged. That person reneged because they tried to forcefully takeover and were rebuked.

They were running out of money and forced to raise funds in a very for-profit way or fold.

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Edit: Rate limited because the hivemind has decided that it's unacceptable to insult their leader

People keep acting like if it wasn't for OpenAI we'd be in some LLM utopia. The reality is some other big tech giant would reach the current SOTA first and we'd be in the same predicament except with a company with 1000x more machinery to do the things you're complaining about.

It's ridiculous the sense of entitlement some people must have to keep insisting that OpenAI should have crawled into a cave and died because some megalomaniac threw a tantrum.

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