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GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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What is really going on here is that Google is trying once more to get all your data one way or another [0]. I would bet that Google offered a lot of money for GM to have Google automotive as their platform.

I really like GM and believe that they have a strong chance in the EV market long term but this essentially will prevent me from ever getting one of those cars.

[0] https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-data-google-collects-...

Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not familiar with GM's collab with Google, but if I'm understanding it right, it'll probably be a major Android Auto fork that's only available in GM cars.

Doubtful it will be based upon Android Auto since that is primarily a phone mirroring system similar to Carplay. It is likely an Android Automotive based system. Android Automotive is Google's infotainment OS. GM already has cars in production which use Android Automotive. There is nothing about Android Automotive which precludes the use of Carplay, and Carplay is already supported in other Android Automotive based i…

So why isn't GM getting out there and saying "don't worry, you can still use CarPlay"?

Unless the GM fork will prohibit it to maximize the data flowing to Google?

Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doubtful it will be based upon Android Auto since that is primarily a phone mirroring system similar to Carplay. It is likely an Android Automotive based system. Android Automotive is Google's infotainment OS. GM already has cars in production which use Android Automotive. There is nothing about Android Automotive which precludes the use of Carplay, and Carplay is already supported in other Android Automotive based i…

So why isn't GM getting out there and saying "don't worry, you can still use CarPlay"? Unless the GM fork will prohibit it to maximize the data flowing to Google?

Because GM has made the decision to not support Carplay so they can drive subscription revenue. It has nothing to do with driving data to Google.

Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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9to5mac today: "GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay: ‘There’s an infinite number of ways this could go bad'" Probably 9to5Google in a few days: "GM dealers are excited about the new Android Auto in all future EVs: ‘Our customers love Google Maps'" Just kidding, 9to5Google is basically the 9to5mac editors pretending they don't hate Google and android to make a few more bucks. They would never writ…

You might be shocked at the market share of iOS devices in the US, especially when it comes to people who have disposable income to do things like buying new cars

Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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What is really going on here is that Google is trying once more to get all your data one way or another [0]. I would bet that Google offered a lot of money for GM to have Google automotive as their platform. I really like GM and believe that they have a strong chance in the EV market long term but this essentially will prevent me from ever getting one of those cars. [0] https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-data-goo…

I don't get it.

The data mentioned in your link can also be collected from a phone connected to the vehicle. What is the problem then?

Does the author think that just because it's running on an ECU it will have unrestricted access to all vehicle data?? Does he not understand that a modern vehicle contains of multiple isolated networks??

Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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Sweet, sweet short term monthly payments. Dumb.

Is it? A vehicle lasts for decades.

$10/mo * 20 years = $2400. That's almost an extra 5% you get over the purchase price, nicely hidden away at the time of sale.

You also self-select for the sort of customer who will put up with being treated like that. There's one born every minute.

Re: GM dealers aren’t happy future EVs won’t support CarPlay

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What is really going on here is that Google is trying once more to get all your data one way or another [0]. I would bet that Google offered a lot of money for GM to have Google automotive as their platform. I really like GM and believe that they have a strong chance in the EV market long term but this essentially will prevent me from ever getting one of those cars. [0] https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-data-goo…

I don't get it. The data mentioned in your link can also be collected from a phone connected to the vehicle. What is the problem then? Does the author think that just because it's running on an ECU it will have unrestricted access to all vehicle data?? Does he not understand that a modern vehicle contains of multiple isolated networks??

>> The data mentioned in your link can also be collected from a phone connected to the vehicle. What is the problem then?

Exactly. With the phone connected I have the option to NOT connect the phone and NOT connect google auto. With google automotive that option disappears.

>> Does the author think that just because it's running on an ECU it will have unrestricted access to all vehicle data??

How much data is too much? It looks like it will be at least able to scrape your location.

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