Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
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Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
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Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#2Neat to see that there's a VM appliance available on launch day. Downloading that now, gonna give it a spin!
Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#3It looks like a very cool product/service, but there's something... off... about this landing page. I can't quite put my finger on it. Two things I can think of right off the bat:
1. The use of the term "whitepaper". It's very "enterprisey"
2. It took me a bit of perusing to figure out what the product IS. I think the lead paragraph may need some tweaking
In all, the landing page makes the product feel intimidating. Contrast to Parse's landing page (https://www.parse.com/) where it feels like I'm free to jump right in and tinker with it, but I also get the impression that it will scale up if I need it to. (Yes, I know the two services aren't offering the same thing).
Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#4If I read correctly, it is pretty expensive. $0.10 / connection (peer) / hour, plus dynamodb and transactor instance charges. For 100 clients, and not including the dynamodb or transactor instance(s), this makes it a hair more per year then a quad core oracle instance.
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Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#6If I read correctly, it is pretty expensive. $0.10 / connection (peer) / hour, plus dynamodb and transactor instance charges. For 100 clients, and not including the dynamodb or transactor instance(s), this makes it a hair more per year then a quad core oracle instance.
You have to factor in the DBAs that come with that Oracle db, too.
Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#7It looks like a very cool product/service, but there's something... off... about this landing page. I can't quite put my finger on it. Two things I can think of right off the bat: 1. The use of the term "whitepaper". It's very "enterprisey" 2. It took me a bit of perusing to figure out what the product IS. I think the lead paragraph may need some tweaking In all, the landing page makes the product feel intimidating.…
I agree with you on the landing page. The introductory paragraph seems rather "fluffy". That combined with the fact that it uses a whitepaper immediately gave me the feeling that it's not really meant as something for regular programmers to check out and hack with. It's surprising, since that's how many Clojure programmers get their start.
On the other hand, it's very new so maybe they'll add more developer-friendly pages soon. Or maybe it's only meant for "enterprise" environments? Time will tell.
Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#8It looks like a very cool product/service, but there's something... off... about this landing page. I can't quite put my finger on it. Two things I can think of right off the bat: 1. The use of the term "whitepaper". It's very "enterprisey" 2. It took me a bit of perusing to figure out what the product IS. I think the lead paragraph may need some tweaking In all, the landing page makes the product feel intimidating.…
I had the same reaction. I think Rich Hickey is a genius, and I'm an absolute Clojure nut. I have every confidence that this is probably a very cool thing.
But judging from that opening description, I gather that Datomic puts the data and analysis in the same application. As a description of what the thing IS, it's about as informative as saying, "This new language allows you to take control of your computer by allowing you to give it coded instructions!" or "Our storage solution allows you to persistently store data!"
Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#9Rich will be discussing Datomic in his keynote at Clojure/West next week in San Jose (Friday March 16th). Schedule: http://clojurewest.org/schedule
Tickets for the conference are available, including Friday-only tickets for $250. Friday will include Rich's keynote and a keynote by Richard Gabriel as well as lots of other Clojure-y goodness. http://regonline.com/clojurewest2012
Re: Rich Hickey's new project: datomic.com
#10I have to admit I'm a little confused about what this is. I'm taking a coffee break and not really into reading a whitepaper, so take that with a grain of salt, but I'd call that a landing page failure.
That said, it sounds like a database-as-a-service? If so, is the primary benefit the reduced database management load? Or is there some special sauce in here that makes it more capable than other RDMS or NoSQL databases?