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Are the Americans Awake?

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Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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I've always been a fan of working with Zulu time. I work with people spanning 12 different time zones. If we could all work on GMT or Zulu I would be a lot happier trying to scheduled meetings and deployments. Zero ambiguity, especially considering DST and traveling.

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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timezones don't need to perfectly predict whether the sun is up to be useful. when I set a meeting with a colleague in India, I don't really care whether the sun is up. it will almost surely be down for at least one of us. I am just trying to pick a reasonable time where they don't have to end work too late, and I don't have to start too early. having everyone roughly align their work day to 9am-5pm in their local ti…

I don't get how the problem would be harder with a universal timezone. Currently, I have to look up which timezone India is in and find a good time that works for both of us. In a universal timezone, I would have to look up what time noon is in India and find a time that works for both of us.

Your solution is the same regardless of the number of time zones in existence. Either way you need to ‘look up what time noon is in India’.

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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post #136

We should have 1 timezone for the entire planet. Having the same time be different times at different spots on earth just makes things more confusing and causes problems. When I coordinate between timezones I don't even use time, I use delta time (for example "The call is happening 22 hours from now").

https://qntm.org/abolish

This isn't how real people talk. These are bug people from outer space. In real life a normal person would just call and the call would go like:

"Hey I was calling for X"

"Oh I'm busy now. You should call back around HH:MM"

"Okay, I'll do that."

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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post #108

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Not the millionaire part, but yeah it is nice. I work to live, not live to work, and your military job sounds horrible, so I'll pass :)

Anyone who cannot tolerate getting up a little early is definitely not what the modern military is looking for. But some of us can make that sacrifice in exchange for going home early, taking proper lunch breaks, and getting paid for time spent at the gym. We hand a unit "sports" day last week. Half of my guys chose to go fishing. And, because it is summer, we have an unofficial "stand down" every other week. And goo…

This isn't a high school, you don't need to try to recruit here :)

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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I'm perplexed at the implication that we "decided" to have the number of time zones that we do, rather than just acknowledging the reality that the US is a fairly big country. It's cheating a bit with Alaska in the picture, but the US spans about twice the degrees of longitude as Europe, and it would still be solidly "wider" even if you limit to the lower 48 states.

> I'm perplexed at the implication that we "decided" to have the number of time zones that we do, rather than just acknowledging the reality that the US is a fairly big country. Timezones are still a social construct, and decision made. Mainland China is wider than contiguous US, and yet it runs on single TZ.

Independent of how many discrete groups we invent, there is a broader range of times of local solar noon in the lower 48 states than in Europe.

So what I mean is that, because integers are easy to work with, and we've arbitrarily settled on 24 hours in a day, and given time zones exist, the number of them in the lower 48 US states (4 plus Arizona's situation) is pretty far from wild. China's decision is much more of a stretch.

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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I feel that most are awake earlier than 8am. I sure don't want to be but jobs tend to force you up before then.

Maybe most of people having regular office hours. But between retirees, unemployed, shift-work, small kids, stay-at-home parents, and other irregular hour lives its probably difficult to say when most people are awake

Since the invention of the lightbulb and most people no longer working in agriculture the sun has lost its place in society. Our schedules have changed. I'm old enough to remember when supermarktets closed at 6 because women didn't have jobs.

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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It is "decided" which is correct. With 24 hours a day and 360 degrees of longitude, it should be simply 15 degrees per hour. The number of time zone that a country has is a political choice, perhaps based on geography somewhat. The size of each time zone is also variable depending on the choice the government makes. * Look at China for example, one time zone. * India is the same with one time zone. * Mountain Time Zo…

China's time zone is interesting, mostly a reflection of the fact that like 80% of the population lives in a north-south strip along the coast, largely within one "natural" time zone. The further you are from the east coast, the weirder it is. It may be 7 am in both Beijing and Urumqi, but everyone in Urumqi is still asleep because the sun won't be up for a couple more hours.

The far west of China sometimes uses a local time zone, Xinjiang Time that is two hours ahead. That indicates that two hours is too far for one time zone. I get the impression is that usage of local time is on ethnic lines and may have disappeared after crackdown.

Re: Are the Americans Awake?

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I find it kind of strange to call Threads DOA, especially from lack of hashtags which haven't been relevant on Twitter for years.

Hashtags coupled with the algorithm are super important to network effects and getting tweets out there beyond just your followers. Connecting community beyond just some follows is important to network spread and also discoverability. Threads has no discoverability. And endless crap/unrelated accounts being forced on you with no clear way to say you're not interested in them? (why would Mute be the solution to that?)…

>And endless crap/unrelated accounts being forced on you with no clear way to say you're not interested in them? (why would Mute be the solution to that?)

This is how discoverability is down now. Hashtags have been a huge red flag on twitter for years.

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