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Re: Nitter is working again

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This does not seem legal. Stealing an access token to bypass access controls is illegal and I suspect these people didn't get permission to just scrape anything they want.

I am not a lawyer but take your word for it. Is it illegal specifically in US, or elsewhere too?

Either way, you'd surely agree its a noble pursuit? Just considering the wider context here!

Re: Nitter is working again

#52

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Nobody? If Nitter goes down Twitter might as well not even exist to me.

this is exactly my experience for the last week. let's see whether I feel the need to update my instance with this patch. for now I'm just like "oh, another twitter link, let me completely ignore it."

I'll either ignore it or wait until somebody else accesses it and copies the text or takes a screenshot. If nobody does, it's because it's not important enough and I probably don't need to know about it.

Re: Nitter is working again

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Is this really permanent? I'd love to know more about this bearer token. Because in the other github issue thread it seemed like every time they found a way around Twitter's safeguards, it was shutdown. It seems like they've literally hard coded a token into the source code. Meaning thousands of nitter-instances, thousands of users, around the world, will use the same token. And potentially so will the AI companies.…

My guess is that this token is used in the official Twitter web/mobile app - making it hard for Twitter to just straight up disable/ban.

that's what happened last time we went around this merry-go-round, back in January or so. Those keys were working for many months.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/10b0krt/comment/...

Re: Nitter is working again

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The clients currently work logged out (exempting rate limits) and it's not like you can upload a per user copy of the app to play store/app store, so that root of trust needs to start somewhere which is what the nitter team can extract.

Hmmm... I was thinking you could limit based on the unique identifierForVendor[1], but without a way to verify that a given id is legit this would be easily circumvented. An API whereby Apple cryptographically signs a vendor/device-specific ID so you can effectively rate limit without needing any personal info whatsoever would be nice. 1: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/uidevice/162...

A device specific ID would be a fingerprinting mechanism that would conflict with the privacy goals though? It would then have to be resettable, like the ad identifier already is.

Re: Nitter is working again

#56
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Awesome, now my light personal-use scraper works again. Didn't even take a restart! Hope Twitter soon lets go of the temporary login restriction too. Given that this isn't completely blocked without a login, I'd expect that to be not far from now on. From what I've collected, I hope Twitter'd start selling dumps of their public data for a bit of a win/win with AI companies and Twitter itself.

I think this exists: https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api/enterprise... but it is rumored to be absurdly expensive. Unless prices come down to at least the same order of magnitude as scraping I suspect people will be willing to risk the legal uncertainty involved with scraping.

Re: Nitter is working again

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Maybe you don't use it very often? For months before the recent chaos it was very reliable. The fact that it's working today is only because I fixed it, Twitter didn't change anything.

Timelines are usually blank, to the point that I have removed it from the rotation of instances in my browser redirector extension. I assumed this was a result of being rate limited by Twitter. I will admit that since I did remove it from the rotation, I don't see it that often these days, mostly when others link to it and then I navigate to a timeline.

I’ve had timelines/tweets fail to load, but a refresh fixed it quickly. If this was a consistent problem did you consider opening an issue to see if they could improve the website?

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To the Nitter URL? Not working for me

Yea, there’s also an icon/link in the upper right corner of the page, just use that. It’s disabled on some instances…

Unfortunately RSS has been disabled on the main instance. It had been available before, but presumably given the rate limiting has been disabled.

Re: Nitter is working again

#59
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Funny how the effect of the rate limit has barely affected bots and scrapers at all but severely damaged the userbase of the site.

tinfoil hat time: what if that was the point all along? twitter was a vital space for organizing protests - think arab spring, occupy wall street.

one of the richest guys in the world (who's also very anti-union, btw!) buys it up in a time where inequality is getting worse and worse and social fabrics are starting to tear and makes it unusable.

no more space for organizing. one fewer threat to capital.

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I think this is why NewPipe doesn't work most of the time. Or if it does work, its absurdly slow.

NewPipe has been working for me for years with occasional breaking changes on YouTube's side that required an urgent update. I watch pretty much everything at 2x speed 1080p and have no issues with buffering.

I generally watch things on 720p, and it's been crashing frequently. Setting the resolution to 1080 usually solves the problem, but transfers the problem to my wonky internet connection.
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