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Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

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post #41

I couldn't spot whether the paper normalize for dash-cam density. If one neighborhood has more dash-cams, is this paper over counting police cars in that neighborhood?

The paper covers this quite explicitly in sections 3 and 4.1.

They mention they have some measures to "compensate for non-representative sampling in the dataset"

> we are reweighting the Nexar data sample, which is sampled from a non-representative set of locations, so that it matches the locations where different demographic groups actually live. For example, to calculate the police deployment levels that Asian residents of New York City experience, we reweight the original data sample to upsample neighborhoods with larger Asian populations.

and

> For example, if vehicles are prohibited from driving near protest areas, which also have larger police presences, we will not have images of large police presences near protests. It is not possible to correct for this bias with the data we have because 1) the true distribution may differ from the Nexar sampling distribution along unobservable dimensions which we cannot reweight along and 2) we may simply have no Nexar images in some regions of the true distribution (e.g. if all vehicles are banned near protests). A second potential bias is that police vehicles represent only a subset of overall police activity: for example, they do not capture officers on foot. We return to both these points below.

Not sure whether you meant this by "explicitly" but I guess the answer is that they didn't correct for it.

Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's research, are we not allowed to research Police and report on the results? That stance seems anti science to me...

>Large-scale policing data is vital for detecting inequity in police behavior and policing algorithms. First sentence of the abstract. Activist research.

Do you disagree with the statement?

Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

#94
post #8

Remember that the federal government is still of the opinion that NYPD is disproportionately targeting black people with its stop and frisk policy, today . That is, almost a decade after it was ruled unconstitutional in federal court. (Edit: "it" being stop & frisk as a whole, not just the targeting of minorities)

There is certainly a growing disconnect between federal court decisions and on-the-ground reality. This disconnect is a recognized problem. Courts are no longer respected as they once were. Many people just dismiss federal courts as political theater. And elected officials often make their reputations by defying courts, or at least pretending so to do, which trickles down to individual employees not respecting judici…

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Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

#95
post #3

On a different but similar idea, I had the idea of using dashcam footage to read petrol station (gas stations for you lot over the pond) signs and get info about pricing for fuel. You could reduce the amount of processing required by only looking for pricing info near a station based on gps. My blackview dashcam stores the video along with gps on a microsd card and it can be accessed using a http connection when on w…

it would be cool to crowdsource police traffic enforcement locations automatically from phones mounted to dashboards

Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

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post #3

On a different but similar idea, I had the idea of using dashcam footage to read petrol station (gas stations for you lot over the pond) signs and get info about pricing for fuel. You could reduce the amount of processing required by only looking for pricing info near a station based on gps. My blackview dashcam stores the video along with gps on a microsd card and it can be accessed using a http connection when on w…

it would be cool to crowdsource police traffic enforcement locations automatically from phones mounted to dashboards

Thats what Waze does, but not so automagically...

Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

#98
post #3

On a different but similar idea, I had the idea of using dashcam footage to read petrol station (gas stations for you lot over the pond) signs and get info about pricing for fuel. You could reduce the amount of processing required by only looking for pricing info near a station based on gps. My blackview dashcam stores the video along with gps on a microsd card and it can be accessed using a http connection when on w…

At least in Canada gas prices are available in Google Maps. IDK where this data comes from but I wonder if it is publicly available (or at least can be scraped from Google). It isn't 100% reliable but is very good, maybe 95% accurate?

Waze has it, but not though CarPlay... and its not automated...

Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's research, are we not allowed to research Police and report on the results? That stance seems anti science to me...

>Large-scale policing data is vital for detecting inequity in police behavior and policing algorithms. First sentence of the abstract. Activist research.

So, it's research into a topic you don't think should be researched?

Do you have any problems with the methodology or conclusions? Like, science can still be science even if it's pursued in the name of social justice. If they are cooking the books, then that's one thing, but if they are making a hypothesis, gathering data, and evaluating that hypothesis fairly using real data, then it's just science.

Re: Dashcam images reveal where police are deployed

#100
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So what is the difference between them beyond the uniform and the name? The goals and incentives.

They got paid to enforce the law.

I'm saying the opposite. Originally, enforcement was communal - it was a periodic expectation, something you did but didn't get paid for.

Then the wealthy started paying people to take the unpleasant shift, but even then the pay wasn't to enforce the law, it was pay to take over for some rich guy who didn't want to be up all night.

People whose career is law enforcement is newer and the compensation and expectations are different.

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